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Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store

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1704 points ardit33 | 10 comments | 13 Aug 20 19:03 UTC | HN request time: 0.793s | source | bottom
1. binthere ◴[14 Aug 20 06:15 UTC] No.24154331[source]▶
Simple question to whoever is honestly defending Apple: What if Windows prevented people from installing anything on their computer except from the Microsoft Store. Then Microsoft forced every app to use their payment system and then charged an excessive 30% fee for each transaction. Would you think that's an abusive and illegal practice?
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2. asien ◴[14 Aug 20 06:55 UTC] No.24154633[source]▶
Thats already the case , it’s Windows S.

But you have the choice between regular Windows and Locked down version.

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3. BoboDupla ◴[14 Aug 20 07:21 UTC] No.24154837[source]▶
I might be mistaken, but wasn't this the policy Apple had since the beginning of AppStore? Every developer and user knew from the beginning what they are getting into. With Windows it is different, no? It would be a drastic change to a product, which operated differently at the beginning.
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4. badestrand ◴[14 Aug 20 07:49 UTC] No.24155055[source]▶
Yes, the fee has been there since the beginning, if you use their payment system.

I think the new and problematic policy is that they now

- forbid you to use other payment systems than their own

- forbid you to just add the 30% to your price on iOS compared to other platforms

- forbid you to mention to the user that they can pay on the company's website or through other channels

Also their own product's don't have to pay the fee. So Apple Music can charge 30% less than Spotify or Spotify can distribute significantly less of the revenue to the artists.

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5. imtringued ◴[14 Aug 20 08:24 UTC] No.24155300[source]▶
Not on ARM. There you only have a choice between Microsoft store apps or emulated x86 applications. You're not going to use Firefox on Windows on ARM unless you download the x86 version which will perform very poorly.
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6. InvOfSmallC ◴[14 Aug 20 08:58 UTC] No.24155531{3}[source]▶
Honestly, it escapes me how these three condition can be legal conditions. I don't in EU you can actually do that.
7. jackbrookes ◴[14 Aug 20 08:59 UTC] No.24155543{3}[source]▶
No, you can run native ARM apps sourced from outside the windows store.
8. zuhsetaqi ◴[14 Aug 20 10:01 UTC] No.24155936{3}[source]▶
> forbid you to just add the 30% to your price on iOS compared to other platforms

That’s new to me. Any source of that?

9. whywhywhywhy ◴[14 Aug 20 11:38 UTC] No.24156589{3}[source]▶
Not true here is the download to the exe for Windows Firefox ARM build. Took me 10 seconds to Google it....

https://download-installer.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/relea...

10. another_kel ◴[14 Aug 20 21:22 UTC] No.24163448{3}[source]▶
>- forbid you to just add the 30% to your price on iOS compared to other platforms

But google does exactly that for their Youtube Premium(and Youtube music). I'm sure this isn't prohibited.