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Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store

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1704 points ardit33 | 3 comments | 13 Aug 20 19:03 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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Findeton ◴[13 Aug 20 20:11 UTC] No.24148096[source]▶
I don't think this should be regulated at all. Apple should be able to impose their rules in their systems. Let's be clear about this, if people are choosing to buy these black-box closed handheld computing devices, there are consequences that come with that choice.
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swiley ◴[13 Aug 20 20:29 UTC] No.24148471[source]▶
Apple is more than welcome to put whatever rules they want on their systems. My phone is not their system though, it’s mine! If I want to run tmux/fetchmail/ocamlc on it then it’s my problem not theirs!
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skizm ◴[13 Aug 20 20:43 UTC] No.24148764[source]▶
Agreed it shouldn't be illegal, but Apple (or any hardware / software maker) should be allowed to do everything in their power to make this extremely inconvenient by putting in hardware blocks, bricking logic, updating their software regularly with new obfuscation techniques, etc. and also, voiding the warranty if there is evidence of tampering with hardware or software.
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ubercow13 ◴[13 Aug 20 21:45 UTC] No.24149784[source]▶
Why should any company be allowed to intentionally brick a product I own because I am doing something legal with it that they don't like?
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ntsplnkv2 ◴[13 Aug 20 22:01 UTC] No.24150008[source]▶
The same reason you have to have a car pass emissions in some states.

We can't deny the security that apple provides over other providers. Part of that is the closed garden - it SHOULD BE a product. The market should provide alternatives.

The only people that benefit from this are big companies - small software devs will have their apps devalued by this move, and the people will just get ripped off more when Epic wins and raises their dumb scam Vbucks to 10$.

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1. growse ◴[13 Aug 20 23:21 UTC] No.24150988[source]▶
Emissions laws are put in place by representatives of the people, for the common good.

Apple saying that I'm not allowed to step outside their walled garden on a device I own is restricting my freedom.

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2. ntsplnkv2 ◴[14 Aug 20 13:36 UTC] No.24157741[source]▶
You can easily argue the walled garden is for their user's common good, which it is. Less malware, safer experience, easier to use for less technically savvy people.

> Apple saying that I'm not allowed to step outside their walled garden on a device I own is restricting my freedom.

Only if there is no remediation - there is. Buy an android and quit moaning. "Freedoms." Laughable. Belarus is shooting people and you're mad because you can't force a company to do what you want when the free market can easily solve the problem.

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3. ubercow13 ◴[14 Aug 20 15:51 UTC] No.24159501[source]▶
You could argue that Microsoft bundling IE was 'for their user's common good' just the same. It was certainly nice and convenient, and made Windows easier to use. And it wasn't restricting anyone's freedom, because they could just use Unix instead.

Except none of those things are the point of antitrust law. But I guess who cares anyway, when genocide is always worse than these things, so we shouldn't care about them?