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Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store

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1704 points ardit33 | 3 comments | 13 Aug 20 19:03 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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nodesocket ◴[13 Aug 20 21:35 UTC] No.24149647[source]▶
I don't see the problem, Epic explicitly went around the app store's payment process and terms of service. It's within Apple's right to pull Fortnite. They are also suing Apple as well.

Why should Epic get a “special arrangement” from all other developers?

If you don't like the terms, then don't be on the Apple App store, but of course your missing a huge swath of the population thus the 30% fee. Being on the App store is essentially unlimited marketing and exposure for your app. Cost of doing business.

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kqvamxurcagg ◴[13 Aug 20 21:44 UTC] No.24149773[source]▶
As a consumer, why can't there be an alternative App Store on IoS if I don't like the Apple terms? Apple shouldn't force consumers and developers to provide them with 30%.
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ernst_klim ◴[13 Aug 20 22:07 UTC] No.24150094[source]▶
If you don't like the service or product, don't buy it. There are Android, Sailfish, Postmarket, Mer.

It's extremely unethical in my opinion to force some service provider to adjust the service to your needs/preferences.

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kickopotomus ◴[13 Aug 20 22:22 UTC] No.24150298{3}[source]▶
I bought my device. I own it outright. It should be up to me, not Apple, what software I would like to run on my device. It is extremely unethical for a company to dictate what software I am allowed to run on hardware that I own. It is even more unethical for that company to then take a portion of my payment away from the developer without allowing another avenue for the transaction to take place.

This would not be an issue if Apple allowed users to easily side load apps.

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1. ernst_klim ◴[13 Aug 20 22:31 UTC] No.24150391{4}[source]▶
> It should be up to me, not Apple, what software I would like to run on my device.

Sorry, you are building a strawman here.

1) You have the full right to do whatever you want with your phone. I don't argue with that, it's the truth.

2) Apple need not to help you to do whatever you want with your phone.

For some reason you confuse your right to do whatever you want with your phone with Apple's obligation to help you with that.

Do reverse engineering, flash custom OS, jailbreak, it's your right, but Apple has no obligation to help you with that. If it's to hard for you to do whatever you want with their device, buy another vendor's device then.

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2. growse ◴[13 Aug 20 23:37 UTC] No.24151199[source]▶
> 2) Apple need not to help you to do whatever you want with your phone.

> For some reason you confuse your right to do whatever you want with your phone with Apple's obligation to help you with that.

At what point along the road from 'not helping' to 'actively hindering' does this become not ok?

When a company goes out of their way to prevent you exercising your rights, what do we call that?

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3. aw1621107 ◴[14 Aug 20 00:21 UTC] No.24151664[source]▶
Honestly curious, since I haven't been following news as closely as I probably should have: has Apple done anything to actively hinder those who wish to jailbreak their devices beyond patching exploits?