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Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store

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1704 points ardit33 | 4 comments | 13 Aug 20 19:03 UTC | HN request time: 0.53s | source
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Findeton ◴[13 Aug 20 20:11 UTC] No.24148096[source]▶
I don't think this should be regulated at all. Apple should be able to impose their rules in their systems. Let's be clear about this, if people are choosing to buy these black-box closed handheld computing devices, there are consequences that come with that choice.
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swiley ◴[13 Aug 20 20:29 UTC] No.24148471[source]▶
Apple is more than welcome to put whatever rules they want on their systems. My phone is not their system though, it’s mine! If I want to run tmux/fetchmail/ocamlc on it then it’s my problem not theirs!
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rokobobo ◴[13 Aug 20 20:48 UTC] No.24148851[source]▶
I am not defending closed platforms, but technically, you are free to jailbreak your phone, they're just not obligated to provide any support after that, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_jailbreaking#Legality

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webstrand ◴[13 Aug 20 21:09 UTC] No.24149214[source]▶
If Apple provided a way to jailbreak their devices, I'd be more inclined to support this argument. But they try to prevent jailbreaking at every opportunity so, regardless of the legality of it, Apple does not consider the phone your system, they consider it theirs.
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1. adt2bt ◴[13 Aug 20 21:32 UTC] No.24149603[source]▶
They mostly prevent jail breaking because the same processes that jailbreak a phone can often be used to hack peoples phones because they’re security loopholes.
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2. BoorishBears ◴[13 Aug 20 21:36 UTC] No.24149666[source]▶
They prevent jailbreaking by not providing a way to do it.

They additionally prevent jailbreaking by patching vulnerabilities.

Only one of these things is being called out.

You can get into all sorts of theoretical discussions about how if there was a way to do it, they'd be increasing their attack surface since now they have to make sure this path is locked properly when the user doesn't want it, but people act like the only way for jailbreaking to work is for Apple to stop patching 0 days, which is not the case.

3. pmontra ◴[13 Aug 20 22:15 UTC] No.24150210[source]▶
My Samsung A40 has a toggle called "OEM unlocking - Allow the bootloader to be unlocked". That's in the developer options. My previous phone from Sony had the same option. If Apple wanted they could do the same.

Security loopholes are a different thing.

4. swiley ◴[14 Aug 20 11:48 UTC] No.24156657[source]▶
Meh. If the file system weren’t encrypted I’d agree with you. Now that it is we should be allowed to replace the OS.