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    Findeton ◴[] No.24148096[source]
    I don't think this should be regulated at all. Apple should be able to impose their rules in their systems. Let's be clear about this, if people are choosing to buy these black-box closed handheld computing devices, there are consequences that come with that choice.
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    1. pier25 ◴[] No.24148254[source]
    I disagree.

    The model makes sense for a console, as it's a very specialized device. A smartphone or a tablet are much closer to a general computing device. How many times has Apple said the iPad is a laptop replacement?

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    2. grawprog ◴[] No.24148331[source]
    I disagree it makes sense on a console.

    Phones can be used to:

    -communicate

    -consume media

    -browse the web

    -play games

    Consoles can be used to:

    -play games

    -consume media

    -browse the web

    -communicate

    I fail to see the difference to be honest.

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    3. ultrarunner ◴[] No.24148529[source]
    The difference is the spirit of the purpose they're purchased "for." Which is why (while I hate some of the walled garden) I'm skeptical of arguments to break up Apple or force them to generalize their products. Regulating the relationship between an offering and the supposed intention behind a purchase seems speculative at best, and, again, a win mostly reserved for the lawyers.
    4. paxys ◴[] No.24148583[source]
    The point isn't can be used to, but rather are used to.
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    5. ClumsyPilot ◴[] No.24148591[source]
    Are you purposefully conflating them?

    I used a phone to call an ambulance, provide the police with video evidence of a crime, navigate when I am lost, file company accounts, banking, and to aid in mapping for architecture and subsequently applying for planning permission.

    What do you do on a console that could cost you life and limb or render you bancrupt?

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    6. pier25 ◴[] No.24148679[source]
    A laptop can be used to:

    -play games

    -consume media

    -browse the web

    -communicate

    7. mdavidn ◴[] No.24148714[source]
    I own and use multiple consoles. I only carry one phone.
    8. grawprog ◴[] No.24149055{3}[source]
    >What do you do on a console that could cost you life and limb or render you bancrupt?

    Well my cousin plays ark every single day, all day on his xbox, his health has deteriorated pretty badly because of this, it's bankrupted him as, he doesn't work and spends money on the game, all his friends exist in the game, I will backtread a bit on the lack of work, he does sell creatures or something to get a bit of money, literally his entire life revolves around this game and his console. He doesn't even own a mobile phone, he just uses Xbox live chat to talk to most people and has a landline in his house for the rare times he actually needs to make a phone call.

    For all intents and purposes, that console is his general computing device for everything he does or that affects his life.

    9. filleduchaos ◴[] No.24149417{3}[source]
    People use consoles to do all those things. As just one example, Netflix makes and maintains an app for the Playstation platform and it's not because they have nothing else to do.
    10. onemiketwelve ◴[] No.24149856{3}[source]
    Consoles have chips and Blinky lights. Phones have chips and Blinky lights. Consoles are phones. Case closed
    11. ntsplnkv2 ◴[] No.24150125[source]
    I keep hearing "general computing device."

    Define this.

    12. whywhywhywhy ◴[] No.24158608[source]
    Why is a computer different then? Would a MacBook Pro that had the same restrictions be acceptable?