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bcatanzaro ◴[] No.23882880[source]
Stay-at-home moms are another big reason for this besides the missionary experience. It is very common for Utah Mormon women to stay at home raising children.

The traditional full-time workplace totally disrespects that choice. SAHMs are not compensated for the hard work they do. It makes sense they would look for something part time to do to make a little money and think about something besides kids. But how can they do that in the traditional American workplace that expects 40+ hours a week and a resume with no gaps?

Many MLMs are built for SAHMs. They build on SAHM social networks and many of them are explicitly about making domestic life more bearable (kitchen gadgets, home goods, clothes, beauty and health products).

I think there’s a story here about SAHMs as a neglected overlooked and disrespected population, and how MLMs fill a need for them.

BTW, I hate MLMs generally, I’m just pointing out that Mormon missionary service isn’t the only thing attracting MLMs to Utah.

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albatross13 ◴[] No.23883127[source]
>not compensated for the hard work they do

Really? Their SO pays for the mortgage that puts a roof over their head. Their SO pays for the groceries (i.e. food on the table). Their SO pays for the gas they use, the electricity they use, the internet they use, and so on. While this isn't the case for single stay at home mothers, to say "IT'S UNPAID LABOR" is just incorrect.

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dsr_ ◴[] No.23883347[source]
It's a distortion of your statement, but I can't help but think that it is not far from:

"But slaves sometimes even got a little spending money!"

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albatross13 ◴[] No.23883567[source]
>slaves sometimes even got a little spending money

Wew lad, I didn't realize you were an olympic athlete but you picked up those goal posts and rocketed 'em down field. Nevertheless I'll bite.

Average american mortgage: 1100$/mo Average food costs per month, with kids: ~350/mo. (Bit of wiggle room here, but I know plenty of stay at home moms that spend this or more on food.) Utilities: 150-200/mo, depending (water, electricity, gas) Internet: 40-80$/mo depending. maybe more Entertainment: differs from family to family so on, and so on.

What about future investments? A stay at home mother's work eases after a child hits their teens, because they can start helping out. Once they leave the house, things become even easier. Meanwhile their SO has been not only paying for everything this whole time, but also investing in their combined future via 401k, other retirement, etc.

Boy that sure is slavery!

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1. reaperducer ◴[] No.23883724[source]
Now re-work your math replacing a SAHM with the cost of a maid, a cook, 24-hour childcare, a secretary, a phone answering service, on-demand car service, shopping service, and a butler and get back to us.
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2. albatross13 ◴[] No.23884286[source]
Again we move the goal posts, from "not compensated at all, they're slaves" to "not compensated enough, pay them the salary of 5 people"?

I don't have the effort to deal with these fallacies. I've made my points, feel free to forget them and take none of it to heart for the rest of your days.

Plus my husband is working today so I'm taking care of the kids and my 2 year old just spilled spaghetti everywhere :)