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Riot is now Element

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550 points J_tt | 16 comments | 15 Jul 20 07:07 UTC | HN request time: 0.872s | source | bottom
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badrabbit ◴[15 Jul 20 10:07 UTC] No.23843202[source]▶
No!!! Of all the names in the world why this. "Hey bro, let's chat on Element" ,not quite a ring to it.

The hardest problem in computer science strikes again!

Matrix,Riot and Libolm are epic projects, I wish them all the success but man, even Riot was a hard sell as a brand. I would seriously be dissapointed if it loses popularity over this. I don't think the project maintainers understand that their core users/fans are waiting for a product they can sell to friends,family and coworkers.

People who don't know tech rely on branding/brand reputation and word of mouth reputation to decide if they are intetested in even trying out a product to begin with.

Which of these is unlike the others?

1) Signal

2) Telegram

3) Element

4) Whatsapp

Hint: The theme is messaging and communication.

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1. snarfy ◴[15 Jul 20 12:41 UTC] No.23844323[source]▶
It fails the two syllable rule. All the best companies/bands/groups have two syllable names. If by chance a company succeeds without the two syllable name, a two syllable pseudonym will materialize.
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2. derwiki ◴[15 Jul 20 12:53 UTC] No.23844462[source]▶
Am a zon? Mic ro soft?
3. Majestic121 ◴[15 Jul 20 12:54 UTC] No.23844471[source]▶
Microsoft Amazon Facebook Instagram ?
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4. supportlocal4h ◴[15 Jul 20 12:57 UTC] No.23844499[source]▶
Like Toyota
5. worble ◴[15 Jul 20 12:57 UTC] No.23844501[source]▶
>a two syllable pseudonym will materialize

Hmm, which sounds better?

"Let's chat on the 'ment"

"Let's chat on Ele"

I'm trying to guess which will get used. I'm thinking the second one.

Or maybe just drop the 'e' and say "Let's talk on el'ment"?

That might confuse some Europeans though, maybe just "e'ment" is better.

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6. sethammons ◴[15 Jul 20 12:57 UTC] No.23844511[source]▶
Toshiba, Mercedes, IBM, Microsoft, ycombinator, and my humble employer is Twilio. That is 10 seconds of names off the top of my head. I guess Mercedes is often shortened to Benz.
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7. programmarchy ◴[15 Jul 20 13:47 UTC] No.23845137[source]▶
Ele sounds pretty good to me, pronounced like Elly.
8. snarfy ◴[15 Jul 20 14:16 UTC] No.23845504[source]▶
Microsoft = MS

IBM = Big Blue

Ycombinator = YC

Toshiba = Toshi

off the top of my head ;)

Not sure about Twilio, but upon first scan with my old eyes I wanted to read it as 'twillow'

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9. Arathorn ◴[15 Jul 20 14:27 UTC] No.23845632{3}[source]▶
. o O ( ellie the element )
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10. CameronNemo ◴[15 Jul 20 15:01 UTC] No.23846141[source]▶
Facebook is two syllables.
11. patmorgan23 ◴[15 Jul 20 16:36 UTC] No.23847687[source]▶
Amazon Microsoft Mac and cheese Oreo's Doritos McDonald's Whataburger
12. TuringTest ◴[15 Jul 20 18:19 UTC] No.23849359[source]▶
"I'll meet you in the Matrix".

How cooler than that can it be? I wouldn't be surprised if matrix-based apps get popular at first by using the protocol name, and only them using the app name as a differentiator.

"My niece installed me this app for chatting in the Matrix, what was it called? Ah yes, Element Matrix."

13. fomine3 ◴[16 Jul 20 07:23 UTC] No.23856651[source]▶
BTW Toshiba is consists of Tou + Shiba in Japanese so it is two syllable name.
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14. sethammons ◴[16 Jul 20 14:45 UTC] No.23859477{3}[source]▶
How is “shiba” one syllable? Is it pronounced differently in Japanese?
15. sethammons ◴[16 Jul 20 14:51 UTC] No.23859556{3}[source]▶
Do you actually say “MS?” I’ve only heard that as a prefix, like “MS DOS” or “MS Word,” but I’ve never heard someone say they work for “MS” or that “MS” makes Xbox. I’ve also never heard “Big Blue” nor “Toshi.” I have heard “HN,” so got me there.
16. sethammons ◴[16 Jul 20 14:53 UTC] No.23859568{4}[source]▶
Ellie sounds better than Element.