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dang ◴[14 Jul 20 18:17 UTC] No.23835613[source]▶
All: HN has been seeing a dismaying increase in nationalistic flamewar. This is not allowed here. I know it feels important when you're caught up in the intensity of such feelings, but it is not interesting, which is what HN is for. Worse, it has the effect on interesting discussion that tank battles have on a city park.

If you don't have something thoughtful and substantive to say, please don't post until you do. Drop denunciatory rhetoric—it's tedious and evokes worse from others.

Remember that the community is divided on divisive topics and that the person disagreeing with you is probably not a spy, but just someone who disagrees with you.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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dang ◴[14 Jul 20 18:30 UTC] No.23835804[source]▶
This is a stub comment to collect replies in one place. That way we can collapse it and prevent too much offtopicness at the top of thread.
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GuiA[dead post] ◴[14 Jul 20 19:29 UTC] No.23836596[source]▶
Attempts to build constructive conversations in these threads are almost always met with heavy flagging/downvoting. My own personal experience is that any comment that isn’t 100% backing the CCP falls to a negative score in a matter of minutes. Sometimes it goes back to 0/1 over the following hours, sometimes not. I’ve been on HN almost 10 years and that’s almost always been true, but it’s gotten much worse in recent years. Speaking to others, I know I’m not alone.

The standard mod answer is that you all are aware of voting rings and there’s no CCP astroturfing on HN, but many regular users feel like that’s not the case, so clearly there’s a disconnect here.

Edit: lol at this comment being -1 minutes after posting it

dang ◴[14 Jul 20 19:52 UTC] No.23836909[source]▶
> any comment that isn’t 100% backing the CCP falls to a negative score in a matter of minutes

This is so bizarrely remote from accurate that I don't know what else to tell you. As far as I can tell, the only explanation for this sort of wild misassessment is that people's perceptions are extremely affected by their passions. The more passionate our beliefs, the more we simply can't see the datapoints that don't fit the filter.

That also explains why these claims are getting more common these days: passions are rising.

When your comments are breaking the site guidelines, you need look no further for why they might be downvoted. I seem to recall that you've done that a lot.

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GuiA ◴[14 Jul 20 19:57 UTC] No.23836982[source]▶
Ah yes dang. Users who are otherwise constructive members of the site break the rules only on CCP related threads. Not only that, but their rule breaking is only penalized in the minutes after which they post, only to slowly return to the mean over time.

Keep telling yourself that.

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1. Confiks ◴[14 Jul 20 23:25 UTC] No.23839348[source]▶
If I look at your other posts, you're indeed pretty constructive elsewhere.

Then, don't you see that the claim you make, that "any comment that isn’t 100% backing the CCP falls to a negative score in a matter of minutes" is clearly false and an exaggeration? That lack of self-awareness is the reason your post is dead in a matter of minutes.