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Huawei 5G kit must be removed from UK by 2027

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293 points doener | 2 comments | 14 Jul 20 12:06 UTC | HN request time: 0.392s | source
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AndyMcConachie[dead post] ◴[14 Jul 20 12:39 UTC] No.23831133[source]▶
I'm constantly seeing westerners whine about Chinese human rights violations while simultaneously ignoring the HR violations occurring everywhere else, especially in the west. American cops routinely kill people. Yet, how many people have died in Hong Kong because of their protests?

The notion that China lacks 'proper civil society' is in my mind rooted in a western sense of orientalism and good old fashioned racism. I'm no defender of China, but let's recognize that the same nations trying to punish China because 'human rights'(US, UK) are the same ones responsible for killing close to 1 million Iraqis and creating the largest humanitarian crisis on earth(Yemen).

Waterfall ◴[14 Jul 20 12:47 UTC] No.23831212[source]▶
China puts their own citizens in concentration camps. They're using machine learning to generate social scores. If you don't like America or the UK, you can leave. Try doing that in China. Dying in a free zone is preferable to the enslavement that the Chinese are subjected to. Freedom has a price, and it's not racist to not like these horrible cultural values or to go against them.
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1. dang ◴[14 Jul 20 19:39 UTC] No.23836722[source]▶
Please stop posting nationalistic and/or ideological flamewar comments to HN. It's against the side guidelines, and it evokes worse from others.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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2. Waterfall ◴[18 Jul 20 22:30 UTC] No.23885395[source]▶
Hi, sorry I am not sure what you consider nationalistic, or a flamewar. I am not solely criticizing the east, in another post I consider the US stuck in the 50s. I have family in China+HK and do not like the cultural values now. What would have been a better way to post that? I think the comment is relevant in a thread about Huawei and 5g and why people are pushing back against China.