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AndyMcConachie[dead post] ◴[] No.23831133[source]
I'm constantly seeing westerners whine about Chinese human rights violations while simultaneously ignoring the HR violations occurring everywhere else, especially in the west. American cops routinely kill people. Yet, how many people have died in Hong Kong because of their protests?

The notion that China lacks 'proper civil society' is in my mind rooted in a western sense of orientalism and good old fashioned racism. I'm no defender of China, but let's recognize that the same nations trying to punish China because 'human rights'(US, UK) are the same ones responsible for killing close to 1 million Iraqis and creating the largest humanitarian crisis on earth(Yemen).

eggsnbacon1[dead post] ◴[] No.23831226[source]
Classic whataboutism. China has more Uighurs in "re-education" camps than Nazis did in WWII. And plenty of people in HK have disappeared Stalin style. Its disingenuous to say "nobody died" just because you can't find the bodies.

Middle east is a mess for a number of reasons and 40+ years of civil wars. You can't directly point the finger at one nation like you can for the human rights violations in China.

And might as well throw the racism card in there too. Anyone who thinks China is ruining Hong Kong and imprisoning millions of innocent people, its because they're racist.

geogra4 ◴[] No.23831449[source]
There is no evidence of this. Please cite a source that is not Adrian Zenz
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1. eggsnbacon1 ◴[] No.23832516[source]
If you think Adrian Zenz is some kind of fraud there's nothing I can post that will convince you so sources are pointless. Google "China re-education camps" and you'll find hundreds of articles on the subject from news organizations all of the world