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AndyMcConachie[dead post] ◴[14 Jul 20 12:39 UTC] No.23831133[source]▶
I'm constantly seeing westerners whine about Chinese human rights violations while simultaneously ignoring the HR violations occurring everywhere else, especially in the west. American cops routinely kill people. Yet, how many people have died in Hong Kong because of their protests?

The notion that China lacks 'proper civil society' is in my mind rooted in a western sense of orientalism and good old fashioned racism. I'm no defender of China, but let's recognize that the same nations trying to punish China because 'human rights'(US, UK) are the same ones responsible for killing close to 1 million Iraqis and creating the largest humanitarian crisis on earth(Yemen).

ardit33[dead post] ◴[14 Jul 20 12:46 UTC] No.23831199[source]▶
China is currently doing slow motion genocide / ethnic cleansing in one of their major provinces.

There is no comparison. Relativism... is a way to 'cleanse' somebody's crime, with saying: but x, and y, or doing something bad

We see China bots doing this over and over on forums, (reddit being a prime target)

Lets make it clear: by saying china is not doing anything worse than the west, you are clearly supporting genocide and concentration camps...

throwawaybab323[dead post] ◴[14 Jul 20 12:52 UTC] No.23831267[source]▶
Your point is? Every nation does this with their indigenous population. Yet you don't seem to be outraged at the fact native americans are raped and murdered almost everyday in america.
jaekash ◴[14 Jul 20 12:58 UTC] No.23831349[source]▶
> Every nation does this with their indigenous population.

And it is always wrong.

> Yet you don't seem to be outraged at the fact native americans are raped and murdered almost everyday in america.

Not under sanction of the state, and Non native americans are also raped and murdered almost every day in america. These things are crimes in USA regardless of the victim, where in China the state is sanctioning it and doing it.

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throwawaybab323[dead post] ◴[14 Jul 20 13:13 UTC] No.23831499[source]▶
Yes it wrong. But we aren't punishing africa for their genocide of muslims and christians and we arent doing it our own ally israel. So isn't it a bit weird that its mentioned with china every other day? Do you know what they call concentration camps in israel? The gaza strip.
jaekash ◴[14 Jul 20 13:16 UTC] No.23831539[source]▶
It is a bit weird that there are whole movements like BDS setup against Isreal, a wholly democratic and liberal country where people of all religions enjoy the same rights and nobody is placed in concentration camps, while every time someone mentions that China is a bad actor we get asked why does BDS not exists.

BDS does exist, and China is a bad actor and should be opposed.

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throwawaybab323 ◴[14 Jul 20 13:52 UTC] No.23831943[source]▶
The US condemned BDS by the way. Look it up.
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jaekash ◴[14 Jul 20 14:03 UTC] No.23832056[source]▶
I assume you are referring to the Democrat controlled US House passing a resolution with bipartisan support and a 398-17 vote which condemns BDS[1].

BDS is still allowed to operate and the condemnation has no state-actionable consequences against BDS. And there are members of the US congress who openly support BDS.

[1]: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/23/us/politics/house-israel-...

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1. throwawaybab323 ◴[14 Jul 20 14:29 UTC] No.23832372{3}[source]▶
No, actually I'm referring to almost every piece of legislature in each of the us states. In which the first to ratify the sanctions being Tennessee a republican state. http://jewishobservernashville.org/2015/04/22/tennessee-legi...

But I assume all you did was a quick google search to confirm your bias.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/anti-bds-legislation

Hmm, It seems the majority of the states to ratify resolutions have been overwhelmingly republican.

It seems as if. Everyone in the us who does not support the bds movement.

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2. dang ◴[14 Jul 20 19:41 UTC] No.23836756[source]▶
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3. dang ◴[14 Jul 20 19:42 UTC] No.23836766[source]▶
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