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Huawei 5G kit must be removed from UK by 2027

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293 points doener | 4 comments | 14 Jul 20 12:06 UTC | HN request time: 0.697s | source
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jaekash ◴[14 Jul 20 13:26 UTC] No.23831635[source]▶
And we already know China has been backdooring other equipment: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-h...

So yes, this is a small victory in a massive war.

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londons_explore ◴[14 Jul 20 13:36 UTC] No.23831765[source]▶
The cost of that victory, according to the BBC, is a 1 year delay in the rollout of 5G tech.

That's a pretty large economic cost. Bob can't watch his medical lectures on the train, so ends up behind in class, Mary's company looses a contract to a foreign competitor because she got frustrated with her bad VPN and didn't read over the bid one last time, Fred couldn't afford the cost of the new 5G contracts so didn't get much data and ended up losing touch with his friends who were all group video calling eachother.

All these socio-economic costs cascade for decades or more. Do they really outweigh the theoretical ability for another nation to disrupt network traffic for a few hours until a mitigation is put in place?

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1. nradov ◴[14 Jul 20 13:49 UTC] No.23831913[source]▶
Existing 4G LTE connections work well enough for those use cases you listed; users will hardly notice any difference on 5G. The real benefit of 5G will be in the new types of applications it enables.
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2. londons_explore ◴[14 Jul 20 14:40 UTC] No.23832491[source]▶
Today... But when webpages become 50 MB each on average, you're going to be waiting a long time for them to load over LTE...

Those 'new applications' will be old applications with a few thousand more JavaScript libraries bundled with every page load...

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3. fock ◴[14 Jul 20 18:23 UTC] No.23835687[source]▶
so for everyone outside China/the US: what's the problem if you have to stop the consumption of surveillance tools?
4. vetinari ◴[14 Jul 20 19:20 UTC] No.23836482[source]▶
From the experience with LTE-based FWA in the boonies: 50 MB webpages each is fine. Even if someone else is watching youtube on the same connection.