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AndyMcConachie[dead post] ◴[] No.23831133[source]
I'm constantly seeing westerners whine about Chinese human rights violations while simultaneously ignoring the HR violations occurring everywhere else, especially in the west. American cops routinely kill people. Yet, how many people have died in Hong Kong because of their protests?

The notion that China lacks 'proper civil society' is in my mind rooted in a western sense of orientalism and good old fashioned racism. I'm no defender of China, but let's recognize that the same nations trying to punish China because 'human rights'(US, UK) are the same ones responsible for killing close to 1 million Iraqis and creating the largest humanitarian crisis on earth(Yemen).

1. room271 ◴[] No.23831262[source]
I'm very sympathetic to your criticisms of the UK/US, but I think you are taking for granted the great many freedoms you enjoy (I assume you are from one of these countries but apologies if not) and are being naive (or just perhaps it's driven by cynicism) over the very real differences here.