Apple declined to implement 16 Web APIs in Safari due to privacy concerns

Lot of people on this thread are saying that put these behind permissions and call it a day! You people don't understand that not everyone is tech savvy and understand permissions well. My dad keeps giving on permissions on any website asking on his Android device as he just wants to get rid of them.

Think about how many websites you visit and how many apps you install. I bet second number is way smaller than first one. When installing apps - you put some trust into app and lot of non tech people understand same (thankfully taught by antiviruses to not install random thing). People are not willing to install lot of apps but always willing to visit websites to "check it out".

Privacy fundamentally limits UX and there is direct trade-off. I believe Apple is doing right thing to protect privacy of millions of non tech people.

And you people don’t seem to understand that UX doesn’t need be the same. Websites can make the prompts default to no, even hiding them by default behind an icon.

There’s no reason you can’t make the UX cater to the use case such that it’s clear and secure by default.

It’s just tiring dealing with people who channel their hatred for JavaScript essentially into nerfing the only truly open platform we have, one with far better primitives than the native ones and with a massive potential that is only held back by the feet dragging of every major company (Google and Apple both).

Then you go to HN where you’d expect we could agree that a web that complemented apps if done well should exist, and instead we have nerds gaslighting other nerds using every fake reason they can find (my dad wouldn’t understand the notification, or, good because I don’t want powerful sites) when in reality they just lack any imagination that would easily allow them to have both worlds, thus keeping those who do have some imagination stuck in this special hell of having to re-make the same points over and over.