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metrokoi ◴[] No.23323854[source]
Almost no one is ever happy with fact-checking, it often just leads to more disputes about whether or not the fact-checking is correct or warranted. To me it seems much more efficient to simply teach people not to take anything posted on social media seriously and to better think for themselves. One may say that the president should be an exception because of the number of people he reaches, but what about a famous actor with millions of followers? Or Elon Musk? What would the line of acceptable influence be in order to make someone fact-checkable? The set of fact-checkable people could be very large, and the manpower required to fact check all of them formidable.

One may also argue that the president harms our country's image but again, senators and congressmen represent us as well and can also influence large amounts of people.

That does not mean he must go uncontested; people can still dispute everything he says by responding (the original form of fact-checking). The discussion should instead be about whether or not political figures should be able to block people. I remember that was an issue a while ago, and I'm not sure where it is now.

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1. jdashg ◴[] No.23327140[source]
We have tried teaching people not to believe everything they read on the internet already. We need solutions that actually work.

It's wishful thinking at best to believe that Twitter replies can effectively refute arguments. They don't establish public dialog unless the OP retweets the responses. You can't call it a dialogue if, effectively, there's only one person talking. Even simple refutations fail on Twitter.

"We can't fact check one person because it'd be hard to do the same for a large number of people" is classic perfect-as-enemy-of-good. We get huge bang-for-buck by handling some obvious outliers and known bad actors, and that's worth doing.

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2. anewdirection ◴[] No.23327491[source]
So when 'fact checkers' end up with a right-wing bias will that still seem prudent? History is full of people in power, expanding their powers only to see their opposition use them more effectively against them.
3. umvi ◴[] No.23330896[source]
What western democracies really need is an entire government segment dedicated to fact-checking. We could call it the "Department of Truth" (or "Ministry of Truth" in UK) and it would be responsible for labeling things on social media as true or false using little fact checker badges.
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4. jdashg ◴[] No.23331311[source]
Don't strawman.

We literally have agencies that enforce degrees of truthfulness today, such as the FDA, FCC, and FTC. Our legal system is explicitly designed around determining degrees of truth in the courts.

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5. umvi ◴[] No.23331555{3}[source]
It was a reference to 1984