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Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms

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707 points patd | 14 comments | 27 May 20 12:21 UTC | HN request time: 0.681s | source | bottom
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itchyjunk ◴[27 May 20 13:42 UTC] No.23323027[source]▶
Hm, is fact checking solved problem? I remember someone here had their game flagged just because it referenced SARS-CoV-2. I hear almost daily horror stories of youtube algo's screwing up content creator. As a human, I still struggle a lot to read a paper and figure out what I just read. On top of that, things like the GPT2 from OpenAI might generate very human like comment.

Is there no way to consider social media as unreliable overall and not bother fact checking anything there? All this tech is relatively new but maybe we should think in longer time scale. Wikipedia is still not used as a source in school work because that's the direction educational institution moved. If we could give a status that nothing on social media is too be taken seriously, maybe it's a better approach.

Let me end this on a muddier concept. I thought masks was a good idea from the get go but there was an opposing view that existed at some point about this even from "authoritative" sources. In that case, do we just appeal to authority? Ask some oracle what "fact" is and shun every other point of view?

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1. gadders ◴[27 May 20 14:18 UTC] No.23323678[source]▶
It's certainly not a solved problem when the "Head of Site Integrity" has a history of anti-Trump tweets and called the President a Nazi.

And that's just the head of the team. You can see the hard-left and pro-Antifa affiliations of the team outlined here: https://nickmonroe.blog/2019/11/28/dear-jack-twitter-is-poli...

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2. jki275 ◴[27 May 20 14:55 UTC] No.23324301[source]▶
Quite the flame bait there, you're claiming that half the country is not intelligent or moral.
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3. mgoetzke ◴[27 May 20 14:57 UTC] No.23324333[source]▶
pro-Antifa means Pro Anti-Fascist which means to organise some movement against fascism.

Would we really want people to be the inverse ? Meaning would we like them to be more fascist or accepting of fascism ?

What exactly happened that AntiFa has become a group that people don't support ? Maybe I missed something there.

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4. SpicyLemonZest ◴[27 May 20 15:08 UTC] No.23324496[source]▶
Antifa is best known for their violent intimidation of political dissidents.
5. gadders ◴[27 May 20 15:16 UTC] No.23324596[source]▶
I think it depends on how you define "Fascist". Is it people that actually go around attacking people of colour? Or is it just a synonym for anyone not a Bernie-Bro?

I think people also have a problem with the violent methods employed by Antifa, such as beating up unarmed journalists.

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6. gadders ◴[27 May 20 15:19 UTC] No.23324638[source]▶
I'm not sure that that is a reasonable point of view.
7. Feuilles_Mortes ◴[27 May 20 15:29 UTC] No.23324782{3}[source]▶
"Antifa" is highly decentralized, with as many autonomous groups as you can count affiliating themselves with the movement. This sort of sentiment sounds a bit like when out-of-touch news anchor refer to "the hacker known as 4chan". Many pacifists identify with "antifa".

In general, provocative and non-defensive violence seems to be a strategy employed by a small minority of people involved in the anti-fascist movement. As is usually the case, the loudest voices are amplified, so the small amount of provocative violence is highlighted by the news media, as well as by the critics of the anti-fascist movement.

8. lovich ◴[27 May 20 15:37 UTC] No.23324900{3}[source]▶
If those follow a standard bell curve, wouldn't it make sense for half the country to be below the average on those aspects?
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9. dragonwriter ◴[27 May 20 15:54 UTC] No.23325150[source]▶
> What exactly happened that AntiFa has become a group that people don't support ?

The rise of right-wing, racist, nationalist, jingoist, corporatist strong-man authoritarianism.

I think there's a shorter term for that...

10. jki275 ◴[27 May 20 15:57 UTC] No.23325199{4}[source]▶
Assumes a LOT of facts not in evidence.
11. jungletime ◴[27 May 20 17:07 UTC] No.23326378[source]▶
By that logic Uranus was named after your anus. See simple. And "The Ministry of Truth" always said true things. And the "Vice and Virtue Ministry" was a noble institution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_and_Virtue_Ministry

Why? because things and people are always named after what they are! See Biggus Dickus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx_G2a2hL6U

12. fetbaffe ◴[27 May 20 17:33 UTC] No.23326791[source]▶
Pro-Life means Pro-Humans which means to organize some movement against death.

Would we really want people to be the inverse? Meaning would we like them to accept more of death?

13. fetbaffe ◴[27 May 20 17:40 UTC] No.23326905{3}[source]▶
Anyone not believing in the Deutsche Demokratische Republik must be anti-democracy, thus fascist.
14. SkyBelow ◴[27 May 20 22:08 UTC] No.23330697[source]▶
This is assuming entities match their names. We only have to consider the Democratic People's Republic of Korea to see that is not the case.