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MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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2031 points jrk | 8 comments | 22 May 20 15:39 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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konart ◴[22 May 20 16:41 UTC] No.23273993[source]▶
I've been using linux distros (~5 years of Ubuntu and ~3 years of Arch) before switching to macOS somewhere around 2013-2014. And now years later I'm thinking about moving back. But every time I'm think about this I start with digging about current Linux situation and every time I realise than it is still a horrible system for anything outside of work, especially if you can't really do without a decent UI\UX.

Apple's ecosystem is also an issue. iOS + macOS is still much better than anything on the market (no alternatives really).

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PKop ◴[22 May 20 17:01 UTC] No.23274287[source]▶
Switched from macOS this year having used it for about 8 years to first PoP_OS and now Manjaro. Both were great (GNOME environments) and very productive for both development and general use. I really like the streamlined, "get out of your way" UI.

I would say go for it, I'm glad to not be dealing with any of this nonsense, while paying a premium for it.

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1. konart ◴[22 May 20 17:15 UTC] No.23274492[source]▶
I've seen both of them, but the "get out of your way" UI is a limited feature. Apps are still do not respect the rest of it.

You install this new distro (like Elementary if it's still alive) and fall in love with the new Finder clone. But then you install twitter client, torrent client and a dozen of other everyday apps. And they all look terrible. And feel even worse. People still don't care.

As much as I hate certain things about macOS - I'd still chose it over Manjaro for example (haven't really tried PoP)

And not to mentions things like continuity and handoff. I can live without being able to copy paste token from my phone to my computer but this is so convenient T_T

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2. jfkebwjsbx ◴[22 May 20 17:30 UTC] No.23274672[source]▶
> twitter client, torrent client and a dozen of other everyday apps

I don't install any of that in work machines, and I'd hope most devs don't either, specially if the company owns the device.

If you really need those, why cannot you use the browser?

> continuity and handoff

Why do you need that for development?

Even if your workflow requires it for some strange reason, why don't you use an alternative? There are plenty of ways to pass data between devices.

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3. PKop ◴[22 May 20 17:31 UTC] No.23274682[source]▶
Makes sense.. especially if you're still hooked into iOS. I had already given up iPhone couple years earlier so was easier I imagine.

I just use messages.google.com and save it as an app shortcut, and Telegram native app, and both work well. And generally am fine with web apps if a native app doesn't look right. But finding the right native app for the desktop environment can be an issue. The GNOME skinned apps are pretty nice.

And Manjaro has the AUM for plenty of available tools and such. But that's more dev focused

4. konart ◴[22 May 20 17:56 UTC] No.23274988[source]▶
I think you are missing a point here.

tl;dr: I don't have and don't want to have two PCs for two use cases.

I have my personal macbook that I use for work (development) and everything else. I use it when I have to be at the office or when I want to work outside of my apartment. Needless to say I want my personal computer to have applications that I use. For both - work and ... not work.

>> continuity and handoff

>Why do you need that for development?

I don't. I don't use a computer only for development (see above). But even during development something it can come in handy. For example when you are working on a service that has sms auth. Can I just put in 6 digits by hand? Sure. But having them being copied from you phone for you is very convenient.

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5. sergeykish ◴[22 May 20 20:00 UTC] No.23276268[source]▶
Yes, UI consistent mostly in terminal and chromeless applications. Really shows how bad alternative OSes are.

Seriously though with i3, beautiful fonts, so much in the browser it's not bad.

6. jfkebwjsbx ◴[23 May 20 02:03 UTC] No.23279174{3}[source]▶
That is definitely not wise.

Many companies lock down devices for good reason. For starters, to prevent employees doing that and risking the entire company.

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7. konart ◴[23 May 20 14:16 UTC] No.23283113{4}[source]▶
Many companies also take a screenshot of your screen every 10 seconds to "keep you in shape". I'm not taking part in this shit show thankfully. I've had my time in corporations that do this or similar stuff. Never again.

And the only channel I'm connected to the company is the email and selfhosted gitlab. Now tell me how can a twitter client on my working machine harm this. Not in a fictional one in a life time scenario out of Mr Robot.

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8. jfkebwjsbx ◴[24 May 20 19:16 UTC] No.23293878{5}[source]▶
Don't mix privacy and security. Privacy-invading policies have nothing to do with the discussion.

As for examples, you have many, including ones discussed in HN regularly.