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MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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2031 points jrk | 7 comments | 22 May 20 15:39 UTC | HN request time: 0.022s | source | bottom
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leephillips ◴[22 May 20 15:56 UTC] No.23273433[source]▶
This is completely insane. I am so glad I decided years ago to leave closed operating systems behind.

This design seems to cement the trend at Apple to position their products as consumer appliances, not platforms useful for development.

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Nextgrid ◴[22 May 20 16:03 UTC] No.23273517[source]▶
> I am so glad I decided years ago to leave closed operating systems behind.

The problem is, there's nothing else out there. Everything is going to shit in one way or another. Windows is now a disaster, Linux was always a disaster in terms of user experience and isn't improving.

Mac OS was the last bastion of somewhat good, thoughtful design, user experience and attention to detail and now they've gone to shit too.

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1. coldpie ◴[22 May 20 16:13 UTC] No.23273647[source]▶
I think the fact is there simply isn't a solution that works for both the "layperson" and highly technical people who want to do development. Laypeople cannot be trusted to admin their machines, but experts need access to those bits. Leaving a backdoor to real admin access for the experts just means laypeople will abuse those backdoors and mess up their machines again, with dire consequences for the entire planet. You see the same problem with power user UI features vs dumbing down for phones and average users. People keep trying to bridge this divide and I'm just not sure it can be done.
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2. saagarjha ◴[22 May 20 16:44 UTC] No.23274037[source]▶
Chrome OS?
3. bitcharmer ◴[22 May 20 17:30 UTC] No.23274666[source]▶
> Linux was always a disaster in terms of user experience and isn't improving.

This as true today as saying java is slow. Why not just try? You might get pleasantly surprised.

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4. AlexandrB ◴[22 May 20 18:20 UTC] No.23275232[source]▶
> Laypeople cannot be trusted to admin their machines

Yeah, but they're the ones who paid for their machines. So... you're saying they're not allowed to use them how they wish?

> Leaving a backdoor to real admin access for the experts just means laypeople will abuse those backdoors and mess up their machines again

Remembering the last 20 years of computer history, most of the critical fail wasn't caused by "laypeople abusing backdoors" but horrible security holes in popular, widely used software packages: Outlook, Flash, Acrobat Reader, Internet Explorer. Apple/Microsoft are not locking down their OSs to protect users from themselves, but rather from other developers. We, software engineers, seem to have completely failed our users as a profession.

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5. saagarjha ◴[22 May 20 19:40 UTC] No.23276031[source]▶
Someone being tricked into installing malware doesn't usually make the news.
6. chacha2 ◴[23 May 20 02:40 UTC] No.23279367[source]▶
I've tried it recently and still find it true. Death by a million paper cuts.
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7. bitcharmer ◴[24 May 20 18:17 UTC] No.23293401{3}[source]▶
What did you try recently? Java or Linux?