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braythwayt ◴[] No.23267590[source]
A lot of comments are arguing about whether the software should have been modified to accept the HEIC format.

Let's go with "no" for the sake of argument. They probably can't accept an mp3 of me singing my answers, either. But!

If I upload an HEIC, an mp3, a keynote file, or anything else unacceptable... Why doesn't the site provide an immediate "File format not accepted, please upload .gif, .jpg, or .png" message?

According to the article, the software would actually just hang. I think there's room to argue about whether they need to support the default format of an extremely significant platform for students. I think there's room to argue whether they should know enough about INPUT tags to let the browser help with this.

But while we're arguing about those questions, can't we all agree that simply hanging without providing a useful error message, and without giving the student an opportunity to re-upload their image... Is unacceptably poor software design for an institution that holds people's future in their hands?

I don't know about you, but if I were an American college student, I'd now be wondering what else they have kind of slapped together without thinking through graceful error handling?

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treesprite82 ◴[] No.23267911[source]
It does have pretty much exactly that message. The corruption problems came from students seeing that only PNGs/JPGs were allowed, then trying to "convert" the file just by renaming it.

What they're doing is the same as 99% of other sites that expect images. But it's probably fair to expect it to be even more streamlined (i.e: clear conversion instructions) given the circumstances of a time-limited exam.

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tomtomtom1 ◴[] No.23271075[source]
I don't understand why no one is blaming the education system?

How is it possible that students that are being considered for "advanced placement" are not familiar with file formats?

how horrible and backward your education system must be? This belongs to basic literacy in the modern world.

Note we're not speaking about old people who were exposed to files for the first time while they had to balance a family life and other responsibilities.

We're speaking about people that were forced to spend more than half of their lives learning !!!

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1. smileysteve ◴[] No.23271771[source]
Because in a world where apps do everything for you and 80% of your use is on a phone and the remaining 20% is either for a once a year use case, you don't need to worry about image formats.

Even as a software engineer, I haven't used a desktop or windows in 5 years. I haven't used TheGimp (or any other non web/app image manipulation software) in 3 years.

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2. tomtomtom1 ◴[] No.23276853[source]
that's interesting, so you use an iPad for your day to day programming?

from my experience converting ppt/word to pdf is a common enough use case that I would've assumed the majority of non-tech people run into it.

Latex is also a common case where you run into file extensions.

note I'm not expecting them to understand the difference between extensions, just what they mean and how to google how to convert between them.