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coffeefirst ◴[] No.23261776[source]
"Our system broke, you're screwed now, sorry" is never an acceptable answer. Do they really not have anyone who knows how to get stuff done?

1. Take the files and figure out what to do with them so they can be read. This isn't a hard problem.

2. Ask everyone affected to email you the photo or a new photo of the documents. We'll just take it on trust that you do so honestly because there's no way you would've seen this coming.

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xienyc ◴[] No.23262428[source]
>"Our system broke, you're screwed now, sorry" is never an acceptable answer.

That's not what happened at all. The college board admitted their fault and are letting students take the test again. Even without that, they mentioned in their FAQ that JPEGs and PNGs are the only file types acceptable and even sent out a tweet (which should have been an email) a week before especially for iPhone users to let them know how to take pictures as JPEGs.

I agree with the people blaming the board for not having a standard image input field that lets the OS know when to convert images to JPEG but that is their only fault and I wouldn't have thought of that as a bug deal if not for this issue. While I'm all for open source media formats replacing what we have, HEIC certainly isn't big enough to be considered as among standard input options. Also, isn't Apple themselves infamous for not supporting certain formats throughout their devices?

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pwthornton ◴[] No.23262512[source]
If they had enough time to warn people ahead of time, they had plenty of time to push a fix to their system for this. We are literally talking about adding support for one more image format.

Emails, tweets, texts are no excuse for broken products. The iPhone is the best selling model in the United States. It is on College Board to support its default image format.

Good product design is owning your users' success. It is not sending people workaround emails.

The bare minimum would have to be to do a warning before every single AP test about this and giving students a few minutes to change their default image format. Sending a tweet (!!!) out does not count as doing any work.

This is a failure. An abysmal failure.

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mrlala ◴[] No.23262634[source]
Have to agree with this guy here.. if you are doing Q/A testing and you notice that an iphone doesn't work by default, you have a problem.
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vb6sp6 ◴[] No.23262897[source]
People used to say the same thing about Internet Explorer
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mrlala ◴[] No.23263174[source]
What's your point?

If you are developing an application/website and it doesn't work with 50% of your market share- then you are a dumbass for not implementing it.

ESPECIALLY for an AP EXAM with consequences.

This isn't like "oh no, 50% can't reach our site about cat videos". This is an EXAM.

Honestly cannot believe people on here defending them not adding simple image support for 50% of the testers...

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Alupis ◴[] No.23263492[source]
HEIC isn't simple, and isn't common.

Apple should convert to JPG or PNG when exporting the image to anywhere anytime.

The same problem happens with webp images too - totally unusable almost everywhere, even in photoshop.

Apple wants to reduce storage space photos take up. Fine - but they should convert back to a standard format when exporting the image to be used on some other system.

With that said, it seems the issue is from students that didn't upload the image from their phone (where Apple correctly converts to JPG), but rather transferred the image to their computer, then uploaded into the AP Exam.

If that's true, then this is absolutely on Apple. Why would they export in a format that literally nobody else supports. What are these people supposed to do with a folder full of HEIC formatted photos, that can't be uploaded anywhere else, edited with any program, or opened even opened on some Operating Systems?

Apple should assume nobody else uses HEIC because... well, nobody else uses HEIC.

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simonh ◴[] No.23264170[source]
Nothing starts common, you have to start somewhere, and it is an ISO standard format.
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Alupis ◴[] No.23264953[source]
A file format, used by one company, isn't going to change the world.

JPG and PNG are here to stay. Love it or hate it... they are the lowest common denominator for image formats.

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1. lazyjeff ◴[] No.23265639[source]
File formats change fast. It was not too long ago PNG was the newcomer, and people were touting how much better it was than GIF for non-photographs (alpha transparency, better compression, etc.). It has been successful, and now almost all applications support it. Same thing with moving from AVI to the MPEG formats in video.

New formats are a good thing, and fast adoption of them is good for users.