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1783 points zaggynl | 5 comments | | HN request time: 1.222s | source
1. shadowgovt ◴[] No.23223948[source]
"To organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful."

"The world's" doesn't mean "The part of the world we like most." "Universally" doesn't mean "Nobody in China gets to use our system until the Chinese government adopts Western notions of information control."

Google would operate in North Korea if it could, because as a point of philosophy, it's believed that access to more informtion, even curtailed by the government, is better than access to only information controlled by the government.

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2. davesque ◴[] No.23224613[source]
Are you speaking as a Google employee or just from personal opinion?

Also, this viewpoint is naive. Simply more information isn't better. What if all that information was about the flat earth theory and nothing else? Wouldn't more "mutually consistent" information be a better goal? Flat earth stuff is fun but you must limit yourself to a very small plausible universe in order to really buy into it.

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3. shadowgovt ◴[] No.23224853[source]
> Are you speaking as a Google employee or just from personal opinion?

The distinction is irrelevant; were I speaking as a Google employee I would still be speaking from personal opinion, not on behalf of my employer.

> Also, this viewpoint is naive. Simply more information isn't better. What if all that information was about the flat earth theory and nothing else?

It's not though; it's "all" the world's information (within constraints; Google also isn't vending a search index to make pedophilic imagery easy to find). But the flat-Earth hypothetical doesn't apply because that's only a subset.

In fact, it doesn't apply in a way that's demonstrative, I think, of the game Google plays with authoritarian states. Google banks on the notion nature cannot be fooled. Sure, individual phrases or sets of facts (like Tienman Square history) can be knocked out of returned datasets. But the missing data leaves holes; it becomes apparent where the cuts are in the data.

This is why North Korea cuts the whole internet; they know it can't be contained. China's ruling party is more subtle; they'll block unpopular signal it if a sense of "decency," as it were, but they know their people aren't stupid. In any sense of "stupid."

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4. davesque ◴[] No.23224970{3}[source]
> The distinction is irrelevant; were I speaking as a Google employee I would still be speaking from personal opinion, not in behalf of my employer.

Seems like word splitting and I disagree. If you're working at Google, then your opinion is an answer to OP's question. If you're not, then your opinion doesn't count as a Google employee's justification for continuing to work at Google.

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5. shadowgovt ◴[] No.23225092{4}[source]
My opinion is my own and OP can take that as they will (because the opinion they'd get from a Google employee will be of the same weight relative to the "company's opinion" unless their thoughts have been cleared by legal).