Asian American Discrimination in Harvard Admissions [pdf]

I'm pretty shocked by the lack of empathy here.

Do any of these people railing against affirmative action really think that Native/African/Hispanic Americans should be locked in a self-reinforcing cycle of declining educational and economic outcomes?

Maybe going to your second choice school is an ok tradeoff for trying to raise and entire segment of society from relative poverty and discrimination.

* Am Asian, got rejected by Stanford and Harvard

On another note, what makes you think Asian Americans aren't being discriminated against at their second or third choice schools either?

You need to stop thinking this is a fight between Asian Americans and other disadvantaged groups. The fight is about Asian Americans being systemically treated unfairly in American society. It is not acceptable. It wouldn't even be up for debate if we were talking about any other disadvantaged group. Not all Asians come from wealthy families and are trying to get into Harvard.

I mean you're half right here, but who do you really think in American society is doing that much better than Asians? Hispanics? African Americans? Women? The poor? The middle class for that matter?

The reality is that rich, white men have been entrenched in power since long before American society was a thing. You might consider whether retreating into tribalism and picking a fight over affirmative action is eroding or entrenching that advantage by dividing the consensus to change it.

https://www.vox.com/2018/3/28/17031460/affirmative-action-as...

It's not about tribalism or picking a fight over affirmative action. It's about being treated fairly. We don't call African Americans or Hispanics coming together tribalism. They're just justifiably fighting for their rights. But when Asians want to be treated fairer, it's tribalism now? It's wrong when Asians ask for justice?

There must be a way for all disadvantaged peoples to be treated fairly under the law. I reject the idea and seeming consensus that American society has come to in deciding that it's Asians who should be thrown under the bus in favor of other groups, even though on an individual level, many impoverished Asian people are being passed in favor of other people from wealthy families who happen to be the favored race/ethnicity at the time.

Equality.

Thrown under the bus? Asians have by far the highest household income of all racial groups in the US[1]. Where's the beef?

Is it fair to be born into a racial group thats 50% or 25% less likely to earn a degree?[2] Perhaps taking a person's circumstances into consideration, while narrowly and individually unfair, is actually fairer in a broader sense. That goes for race, socio-economic status, and whatever else impairs your opportunities.

It's just disappointing to see the victimization being thrown around here, especially in contrast to the groups being vilified. The sad truth is that a sense of empathy and being able to see the bigger picture will get you a lot farther in life than the words on your diploma.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_U... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_attainment_in_the_...