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danielscrubs ◴[] No.22975715[source]
Can someone explain to me why affirmative action is necessary? Why not just send in your GPA and let a computer check which school you can go to based on your preference? Why resort to low-key racism?

Low-income junior high-schools of course needs more money from the government than the high-income schools to combat equality issues. Because let's face it, it's the low-income people that struggle and always will, money IS power.

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balls187 ◴[] No.22975898[source]
> Why not just send in your GPA and let a computer check which school you can go to based on your preference? Why resort to low-key racism?

College admissions were based that way. And it disproportionately benefited white students, and affirmative action policies were implemented to combat that.

Think of Affirmative Action similar to weighted GPA's.

College Admissions attempted to take a population and normalize them to a pair of datapoints (GPA/SAT/ACT). Affirmative action policies attempted to weigh lower scores higher, factoring in historical biases.

A (white) friend explained it like this: Think of playing a game of monopoly and if you're white you start with 2x the money, and given 1/4 of the properties on the board. If you're black, you start with 1/2 the money, and the all prices are doubled. How likely is it for a black person to win?

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danielscrubs ◴[] No.22976233[source]
So based on skincolor you can tell if I started with 2x the money? You can tell whether he is a millionaire or not? If he lived in a safe area or not? You judge someone based on skincolor, you can back it up with numbers sure, but you didn't judge based on who he is.

Telling people that if only they had a different skincolor that maybe they would have made it. Making the focus on something you cant change is just poison.

If you fix the economic divide violence goes down, substance abuse go down, happiness goes up, and the major beneficiaries are minorities and the ones that will be hit the hardest are the majority group, no racism necessary.

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balls187 ◴[] No.22976349[source]
> So based on skincolor you can tell if I started with 2x the money? You can tell whether he is a millionaire or not? If he lived in a safe area or not? You judge someone based on skincolor, you can back it up with numbers sure, but you didn't judge based on who he is.

The data on US household median income by race is well published data, and shows Black household income lags behind white household income. So yes, while I cannot tell exactly your financial situation, I can make an educated guess with some degree of certainty that if you are white, you were more likely to grew up in a household with higher income.

Educational attainment is also correlated to race as well. For whites 25 and older, 65% have had some form of college, compared to 55% blacks.

And is ONLY with race information. Add a zipcode, that certainty increases.

People are upset with Affirmative Action, because it is picking winners based on race. However those same people fail to recognize factors in their lives that have effectively picked them as winners. That is what society is referring to when they speak of "privileged."

> If you fix the economic divide violence goes down, substance abuse go down, happiness goes up, and the major beneficiaries are minorities and the ones that will be hit the hardest are the majority group, no racism necessary.

I think you've made my point--the economic divide correlates with race. You cannot fix the divide without first acknowledging that racism largely is responsible for it, and continues to further it.

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1. luminaobscura ◴[] No.22976624[source]
well then you could just do affirmative action based in family income? even if most of the beneficiary of this could be African Americans, everyone would be fine with it. Why make it a race issue?
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2. luckylion ◴[] No.22977535[source]
A random thought: to protect their upper class interests, they cannot admit that it's a class issue. Calling it a race-issue instead (and doing something that has proven useless) shifts the debate.
3. MiroF ◴[] No.22978291[source]
Harvard does do affirmative action based on family income, it's just that people throw much less of a hissy fit over it.