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1. slowdog ◴[] No.22975385[source]
Part of the problem is Asians don’t vote as a block, so who will protect them? If for a group of people, votes are split, who will look out for their needs?
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2. SpicyLemonZest ◴[] No.22975490[source]
Demanding that people sort themselves into race-exclusive voting blocks doesn't seem like an effective way to fight racism.
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3. magicsmoke ◴[] No.22975499[source]
Yep, Asian Americans are ridiculously diverse and divided compared to other racial groups in America. Conflicts back in the old world keep AAs divided here, and even when older AAs stay long enough in America to develop a purely AA identity they get swamped by newer immigrants that don't have that same sense of identity and political unity with other AA groups. Despite being in the US since the 1800s, the bulk of the AA population doesn't actually have that much history in the US or experience with how the US political system works. When Asian Americans start putting their Asian identity over their Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Filipino, India, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, or wherever their ancestors were from is when you'll see an actual political bloc.
4. slowdog ◴[] No.22975556[source]
Not sure how I’m demanding, just pointing out some differences between how different groups tackle this
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5. SpicyLemonZest ◴[] No.22975606{3}[source]
Encouraging, then. Putting aside the toxicity of it, it's just not a helpful strategy for this kind of discrimination. If we push for fair treatment on an individual level, we hopefully can get it. If we push for fair treatment of Asian Americans as some monolithic bloc, people are going to compare 6% of the general population to 20% of the Harvard class, and they're not going to see what the issue is.
6. traderjane ◴[] No.22976202[source]
So should black people stop organizing along lines of race, because that doesn't seem like an effective way to fight racism? That just means less black representation.
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7. SpicyLemonZest ◴[] No.22976262{3}[source]
Yes. We shouldn't strap on blinders and ignore race, of course. But the activists who go around encouraging people to identify as Black first and individuals second, I think are toxic and ineffective.
8. jrs95 ◴[] No.22976637[source]
That wasn't at all the point in my opinion. I'm pretty sure the intent was just to point out the political dysfunction of our system that's basically denying Asian Americans a voice on the issue that can actually impact policy.
9. keanzu ◴[] No.22976884[source]
African Americans don't vote as a block either: https://time.com/5821170/georgia-democrat-vernon-jones-trump...