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98.css – design system for building faithful recreations of Windows 98 UIs

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838 points bennettfeely | 2 comments | 21 Apr 20 23:51 UTC | HN request time: 0.58s | source
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zozbot234 ◴[22 Apr 20 03:47 UTC] No.22941909[source]▶
Isn't it a bit ridiculous that we need to do this in the first place? Shouldn't clear 3D controls on a neutral gray background be the default user-agent appearance, with no need for custom CSS of any sort?
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tiborsaas ◴[22 Apr 20 08:25 UTC] No.22943380[source]▶
No, it's not. If it were gray then it would be already opinionated. Why #eee, why not #e9e9e9 or #fefefe or how about #c9c9c9? That doesn't make much sense and it's hard to settle on a color or should it be Tim Berners Lee average hair color? :)

So what remains is either black or white. White seems to be a more rational pick.

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noisem4ker ◴[22 Apr 20 12:19 UTC] No.22944721[source]▶
The system theme should reflect the user's opinion (or at least their learned expectation), thus browsers should honor the system theme.
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1. tiborsaas ◴[22 Apr 20 15:27 UTC] No.22946561[source]▶
I disagree, it's a question of authoring freedom. We have a fairly recent "prefers-color-scheme: dark" media query for this which further proves my point, that it's either black or white by default.

If you, the author of the page decide to respect it then it's fine, but I'd be a bit mad if the browser decided to override my page design to an arbitrary grey shade if I don't declare a background color for the body.

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2. zozbot234 ◴[22 Apr 20 19:14 UTC] No.22949114[source]▶
The prefers-color-scheme media query can return any of 'light', 'dark' or 'no-preference' (the default). There's no real default for "light" design except as may be provided by the page author, or perhaps by the user herself via setting such a preference.