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hn_throwaway_99 ◴[] No.22879511[source]
Perhaps this is too philosophical, but for anyone who has dealt with someone with a long decline into dementia, it's very difficult for me to understand a belief in God after going through that (I certainly understand some people have the exact opposite reaction, so I'm in no way saying this belief is correct).

It's just difficult for me to envision a crueler God if that is indeed the case. A person who has died long before their body gives way, only to be a constant burden, with virtually no joy, and a constant reminder that your loved one is dead, yet still here.

In the worst cases I say unreservedly that it is a huge relief when the person's body finally joins their mind in death.

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tylershuster ◴[] No.22880516[source]
I truly feel for your loss. Two of my grandparents have gone or are going through dementia.

I don't think that this has any bearing on the existence of God, however. Humans are the ones who have created such an overwhelming and toxic physical environment and disconnected social one. For God to truly endow us with free will, He had to allow us to fail, even this miserably, and to cause our contemporaries and descendants to suffer for our failures. We have the hope of Christ's return and eternal life but only after everyone has been given the opportunity to turn to God for hope on earth.

I don't mean to prosthletize — this is how I understand the world and helps keep me hopeful in times of grief, and I hope it helps you too.

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1. Trasmatta ◴[] No.22880738[source]
> Humans are the ones who have created such an overwhelming and toxic physical environment and disconnected social one

This argument isn't really theologically sound. If God exists, he's the one that created a biological system that allows for something as horrific as dementia. That literally has nothing to do with anything humans have done. It's pointless suffering.

> and to cause our contemporaries and descendants to suffer for our failures

Who's failures caused dementia? Certainly wasn't our ancestors fault.

Personally, I gain more comfort from the idea of an impartial universe, than a God who thinks this level of suffering is necessary.