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Amazon begins temperature checks and will provide surgical masks at warehouses

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265 points ajaviaad | 7 comments | 02 Apr 20 14:47 UTC | HN request time: 1.463s | source | bottom
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oski ◴[02 Apr 20 15:34 UTC] No.22760141[source]▶
This response from Amazon is better than nothing, but given that recent figures show that up to 25% of people may be asymptomatic, might these temperature checks give people a false sense of security? They should have any employee with _any_ symptoms stay home and self-quarantine for longer than 3 days.

They should really focus on getting face masks for employees faster by using nonmedical fabric masks, which can help prevent asymptomatic transmission by blocking respiratory droplets from spreading. The article says the surgical masks won't arrive until next week. And they should really be using some alternative fabric mask, rather than surgical masks which should go to healthcare workers.

Each day that interventions are delayed makes a huge difference.

More thoughts at https://shouldiwearafacemask.com

(Edited to remove suggestion to close until they get masks with a compromise to use nonmedical fabric masks.)

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1. ferzul ◴[02 Apr 20 15:42 UTC] No.22760230[source]▶
anti-temperature perfectionism is what got us into this mess. having quick, imperfect tests and good follow up brought South Korea under control.

anti-test perfectionism means the entire west is shut down. we only had so many perfect tests, so we tested almost no one.

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2. techopoly ◴[02 Apr 20 15:43 UTC] No.22760247[source]▶
Perfect is the enemy of good.
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3. oski ◴[02 Apr 20 15:57 UTC] No.22760385[source]▶
My point isn’t that taking temperature checks needs to be perfect, but that they are focusing their intervention on symptomatic spreading rather than asymptomatic spreading.

They would benefit more with immediate action by giving employees nonmedical fabric masks and making them mandatory TODAY rather than waiting for surgical masks next week.

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4. dmoy ◴[02 Apr 20 16:10 UTC] No.22760537{3}[source]▶
GP is agreeing with you. The phrase "perfect is the enemy of good" is a criticism of striving for perfection when you could be doing other good stuff in the meanwhile.

That is, perfect (waiting for super accurate tests, etc) is the enemy of good (testing temperatures, wearing basic masks now).

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5. oski ◴[02 Apr 20 16:23 UTC] No.22760673{4}[source]▶
Ok, thanks for clarifying.
6. throwaway122378 ◴[02 Apr 20 16:43 UTC] No.22760879[source]▶
A lot of this going around lately. Just because you don’t agree with someone, their opinion isn’t the cause of this mess.

OP has a point and I’ve read the number of asymptomatic as high as 50%.

Other than creating more corporate control over employees, statistically how do temp checks improve the situation?

A better solution would be the 5 mins tests. Then you have a 99% certainty.

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7. mindslight ◴[02 Apr 20 17:22 UTC] No.22761310[source]▶
Many opinions have significantly contributed to the mess we're in. It's obviously impossible to go back in time and fix the mistakes of the past six weeks, but it's definitely worth calling out harmful inaction-memes when they're still being repeated!