How the Zoom macOS installer does its job without you clicking ‘install’

As someone who's never used or seen Zoom in action, what's pulling people into Zoom that's not already available in other tools (Hangouts Meet, MS Teams) and even works without installing anything (such as Jitsi)?

Based on what I've seen, there's just so much hostile behaviour by the company (including lying about meeting HIPAA e2e requirements!) and the fact that their _official client_ had parts removed by the macOS malware removal tool that I just don't get why people still consider it as an option. If it were the only "just works" tool out there I'd understand, but there's plenty of competition in this space.

I've personally began using the Jitsi server the local student network association has set up and it's been working like a dream. You can even share a window to others (which I didn't even know browsers had support for) for presentations and such.

I use Meet at work. For social gatherings, my friend group exclusively uses Zoom because (a) better tiling (seems small, but you want to see everyone) and (b) video quality seems better.

I use Zoom, Hangouts, Slack and WebEx. Out of those Zoom has the best call quality, and it is the only solution out of the 4 on which huge meetings (50+ persons) are workable.

I've used another software for big meetings, now called Vibe, which works if I close chrome and patiently wait for the bloated java app to expand into all available memory before trying to take any action... it's not great.

Zoom manages to run without crashing doesn't force me to close a browser and waiting a lot, so that's an advantage.

There’s a chrome extension to do tiling:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-meet-grid-v...

Which is even more infuriating because it shows that missing tiling in Meet is just a frontend issue.

I’m completely baffled that this is not implemented.

I've been in Google Meet meetings with 100 to 150 participants, it worked fine.

My experience (beyond Zoom) is with WebEx, Hangouts, and Teams. Zoom has a better UI for large meetings, and the audio quality is significantly improved. We just switched recently from WebEx to Zoom at the office and it's been refreshing. A few days ago was the last time I tried to use Teams, but the "only four people on the screen at a time" limitation was a no-go for our family's virtual gathering. Everyone was much happier with Zoom's video grid, and we noticed that the audio was significantly improved -- in particular how it handles multiple people trying to talk at the same time.

Was just on a Zoom call with 656 participants, it it was remarkably better than any other solutions we've tried in the past.

The meme that HIPPA requires e2e is so ridiculous - it is pretty clear that very few people actually deal with HIPPA stuff.

Zoom (if you need HIPPA) can set you up with it - but you WILL lose a bunch of features (zoom by default has features that are not HIPPA compatible) - so make sure you need HIPPA before paying for it.

If anything medicine is almost anti-e2e. Everything is copied and copied between one system and another (billing, lab systems, imaging systems etc). Seriously, medicine is in many cases very fragmented, so the number of medical practice groups that need copies of your details / visit details etc is high just to bill you (and you may end up with 5 bills for one visit - which may be 4-5 systems behind the scenes).

Yes, that extension is great. Doesn't work on iPads though.