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t0mas88 ◴[] No.22736717[source]
The whole torrent of grey area, just over the line and outright shady behavior at Zoom is a problem in itself even if all the separate instances in isolation aren't grounds to stop using them. Their responses to security issues and today's revelation of misleading marketing on E2E encryption make it clear they're not just making isolated mistakes. Shady is at the core of how they operate, this is an indication that Zoom has a company culture of accepting borderline behavior. Otherwise it wouldn't be so widespread.

As a customer this is a reason for me to stop using Zoom. Not in the last place because I'm quite sure we're only seeing the public tip of the iceberg of all the unacceptable things happening within Zoom.

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capableweb ◴[] No.22736799[source]
Unfortunately, the current system and people in power seems to not give a damn about security and shady behavior, as long as the thing they are using is working and working well. Zoom is an example of very useful and performant software with shady company behind it, that's why people will continue using it.

Same with Uber, Google and bunch of other companies. It doesn't matter what they do, as their product is helping people enough for people to look past the terrible things.

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Fiahil ◴[] No.22736841[source]
Enterprise customer DO give a damn about security. They can be slow to react, but rules are also there for a very long time. If Zoom doesn't want to loose most of their marketshare in favor of WebEx, they should probably address these issues.
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1. m-p-3 ◴[] No.22737945{3}[source]
Correct, and we blocked zoom.us on the corporate network. No way we're allowing this malware within our walls.

We already have meet.google.com that works well for us, and external clients can easily join through a web browser.