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mikestew ◴[] No.22703219[source]
I have a need for Zoom, virus or no, but the point of the article is why I don't give them money. Give them money, while the company is apparently still going to worry about milking advertising dollars out of me? That's just going to be a strong "no". As the final paragraph of TFA says, either charge more or give away less for free. But if you're selling me out to advertisers after I've given you money, then you're one of "those" companies that I avoid if at all possible. Because they're skeezy. You don't want to appear skeezy, do you, Zoom?

So for now Skype and MS Teams works fine, or at least fine enough that I don't bother with Zoom. Which brings me to a side question: what is the value proposition for Zoom? What does their product do so much better than the others that I'd put up with this shit? Why am I hearing the hell out of it lately? Outstanding PR department?

EDIT: thanks for your answers to “why use it, then?” Because “it just works” seems to be the summary, which hoo boy, one cannot say about a lot of the competition.

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bt3 ◴[] No.22703271[source]
My take: Zoom is very approachable outside of enterprise. Skype (although historically has its roots with regular folks), is mostly used in a "Skype for Business" config. MS Teams is much the same way.

Good PR helps too, I suppose.

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binarymax ◴[] No.22703289[source]
Skype for business has terrible UX. Traditional Skype works great for one-to-one, but can't handle a room full of people.
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mikestew ◴[] No.22703348[source]
How does it fail to handle rooms of people? I ask because I’ve used consumer Skype to host a half dozen folks on two occasions in the past two weeks. Or is your definition of “room” larger than a mere six people?
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1. mstade ◴[] No.22703376[source]
We often run rooms of 200+ people in our organization, which zoom handles without issue. Skype however does not, in our experience.