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929 points ameshkov | 5 comments | 15 Jan 20 19:48 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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dman ◴[15 Jan 20 21:11 UTC] No.22058629[source]▶
Brendan Eich has a helpful chart of Compensation of Highest paid executive at Mozilla vs Firefox market share over time.

https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1217512049716035584/p...

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throwaway123x2 ◴[15 Jan 20 22:02 UTC] No.22059260[source]▶
It's crazy how much FF's marketshare has dropped. It's such a great browser.
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pier25 ◴[15 Jan 20 22:35 UTC] No.22059567[source]▶
Hmm I don't know. I switched to FF 4 months ago and while the engine and dev tools are great, it's simply not as polished as the competition.

For example just look at the alert popups[0], or the non native contextual menus, or the video pop icon. The UI is full of little quirks like that. The tab bar is by far the ugliest one of all current browsers, at least on macOS.

It also misses important features such as multilingual spell checking. For people writing in multiple languages it's a real PITA. I know this functionality can be added with an extension but it slows down FF too much IMO.

[0] https://imgur.com/lODjWSm

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1. squarefoot ◴[15 Jan 20 23:01 UTC] No.22059780[source]▶
It is a great browser, once we agree on priorities on what they should be great at. All modern browsers suck badly wrt UI. User interfaces dumbed down to unusability is the new fashion and both Chrome and Mozilla suffer equally from that (which is why I use Waterfox Classic). But while FF focuses on privacy, and definitely delivers in this context, Chrome and others don't, by design. I would happily trade 50% of everything else for 10% more privacy, because an ugly tab, panel, window, menu etc. does no harm compared to the potential disgrace caused by the loss of control on personal data.
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2. pier25 ◴[15 Jan 20 23:10 UTC] No.22059848[source]▶
It's not one or the other. FF could have the best UI and the best privacy features.
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3. squarefoot ◴[15 Jan 20 23:58 UTC] No.22060250[source]▶
Very true, but it costs money and neither Google's browser with their nearly infinite resources has them. FF might just need more time to implement them properly; I only wish they didn't fall into the dumbed down UI fashion like they did when they copied from others the "let's fill the main page with junk and remove a perfectly working configuration panel completely".
4. samantohermes ◴[16 Jan 20 02:15 UTC] No.22061088[source]▶
Waterfox doesn't really have a future. However, Pale Moon has redundancy in terms of developers and a maintained XUL platform.
5. modo_mario ◴[16 Jan 20 12:32 UTC] No.22063878[source]▶
Do you know how customisable firefox's UI is in ways that chrome isn't? They limited it a bit in recent years so you can no longer can easily turn the url bar and tab bar into one bar which i'm sad about but all in all most of the buttons i don't use i can remove, those i do i can add, i can change the colours, shapes and location. Chrome is ugly by default and doesn't allow me to fix it.