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readhn ◴[] No.21628057[source]
On one hand i am glad that a transnational company is getting stopped like that, especially when breaking the rules. they are basically a giant money hoover that comes in and sucks the money offshore with offshore interests as #1 priority.

on the other hand, often it often takes an outsider to disrupt a well established and corrupt market in order to move it forward.

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aedron ◴[] No.21628084[source]
I feel the same way. I can hardly decide whether I dislike Uber or the taxi industry more.
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1. pluma ◴[] No.21628159[source]
Well, Uber is more exploitative for the drivers and less safe for the riders, so the choice seems clear.

On the other hand Uber has a flashy logo and an app and is sometimes cheaper.

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2. NikolaNovak ◴[] No.21628254[source]
It may be specific to markets.

In Canada's national capital region (Ottawa/Gatineau), where I travel to frequently, I've used Uber extensively even though it's more expensive and less convenient (taxi is right in front of hotel, Uber I have to call and wait for), simply because all cars were in good shape and all drivers were polite and reasonable.

For some reason in that region, majority of taxi drivers:

a) Have cars that are falling apart. Not just significant rust on the car, but frequently wonky suspension, brakes, bearings, etc.

b) They strongly believe they are rally drivers, and traffic lights, pedestrians, let alone bicycles, are their mortal enemies.

Further, all Uber drivers were happy to be Uber drivers, and 70%+ of Taxi drivers were profoundly, existentially unhappy to be Taxi drivers, and would spend entirety of their ride letting me know why.

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Now, in principle, just from theory and articles, I'd agree that Uber feels it is / should be more exploitative of drivers and less safe for riders. I personally just haven't found it that way in practice... :-/

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3. kofejnik ◴[] No.21628325[source]
it's also a lot more convenient and affordable; and having a choice is almost always good.

So maybe _your_ choice is clear; but mine is Uber, 100% of the time.

And if you care so much about poor cabbies, you're free to tip them as much as you want.

4. briandear ◴[] No.21628542[source]
> Well, Uber is more exploitative for the drivers and less safe for the riders, so the choice seems clear.

Have you ever driven for a taxi company as an independent contractor? Taxi companies exploit. People talking about drivers being “exploited” by Uber have never driven for a “normal” taxi company. There is a reason that many taxi drivers now drive for Uber. The taxi business is filthy. Journalists don’t usually write about it because it isn’t sexy like bashing Uber every chance they get.

5. oefrha ◴[] No.21628790[source]
My god, the number of times I sat in a cab with the driver loudly honking and/or swearing at cyclists in the pre-Uber era... And all too often the awkward “conversations” where I had to um, hmm, yeah all the way...

Uber drivers are actually refreshingly polite, I even enjoyed the conversation a few times. Out of my more than a hundred rides there was only one bad experience (other than occasionally waiting for a driver that’s motionless or moving away from me): obviously new driver, didn’t know where the fuck he was going, couldn’t seem to follow GPS, asked for tip at the end of the exceptionally bad, twice as long trip.