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mc32 ◴[20 Nov 19 16:11 UTC] No.21585110[source]▶
>”It’s economically productive for the 1% to maintain a trade relationship with China. The financial incentives don’t help any Americans, and in fact, most of us are hurt by this relationship...”

So true, since its inception with GHW, its execution and realization through Clinton and then once fully engaged the timid, supplicant responses from GW and BO, China has contributed to the stagnation of the blue collar worker on America with the full complicity of Democrats, Republicans and most of Industry and even unions who didn’t oppose their cozy politicians. They all only saw starry dollar signs...

That’s where we are now. People have had enough. That’s why they put up with the guy no one likes because he’s willing to sever that codependent relationship.

Now, if you ask any pol running for the nomination who the greatest threat to America is... it’s not going to be China...

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swlkr ◴[20 Nov 19 16:32 UTC] No.21585341[source]▶
I know this wasn't intended but I thought it was interesting that he doesn't think of the 1% as Americans.
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kick ◴[20 Nov 19 16:51 UTC] No.21585585[source]▶
They aren't, generally.

Given the condition of the lowest of our nation, "traitors" isn't an unreasonable way to describe the 1%, and no one in the 1% has ever seen a firing squad or the electric chair. Not even lethal injection. If they aren't subject to the same rules as Americans, are they really Americans? If they have a higher amount of wealth than sovereign countries, can they be considered anything but sovereign?

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bzbarsky ◴[21 Nov 19 00:26 UTC] No.21590191[source]▶
1% of the US population is something like 3 million people; let's say about 2 million adults. Do you really think that there are 2 million adults in the US who have "a higher amount of wealth than sovereign countries" and that the US should go and execute 2-3 million of its citizens?
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umeshunni[dead post] ◴[21 Nov 19 00:35 UTC] No.21590251[source]▶
> Do you really think that there are 2 million adults in the US who have "a higher amount of wealth than sovereign countries" and that the US should go and execute 2-3 million of its citizens

Germany did in the 40s. There's a reason this rhetoric popular with the socialists in the US sounds very familiar.

1. bzbarsky ◴[21 Nov 19 03:15 UTC] No.21591137[source]▶
Actually, the number of German citizens (or ex-German-citizens, given that German Jews were stripped of citizenship) executed by the Third Reich was "only" about 200,000-300,000 [1], which was about 0.3-0.4% of the population (~70 million). So sort of in the ballpark of "1%", but not even close to 2-3 million, given the much smaller population.

Lots more killing of non-German citizens, of course...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_casualties_in_World_War...