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847 points kick | 3 comments | 20 Nov 19 15:44 UTC | HN request time: 0.66s | source
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jayliew ◴[20 Nov 19 17:49 UTC] No.21586321[source]▶
Tech people: Rant about egregious things that China and Russia does (political, freedom, basic human rights, etc.)

Also tech people: Vehemently oppose helping the US DoD with their highly-sought after skills, sign online petitions, protest and/or quit their high-paying jobs at <insert tech company that provides value to US DoD>.

Serious question for these tech people: What are you exactly doing to help solve the issues you've ranted about?

I'd like to hear thoughtful responses that are not the typical fallacies (e.g. ad hominem, ad populum, straw man, etc.)

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1. deusofnull ◴[20 Nov 19 20:46 UTC] No.21588311[source]▶
So what are you suggesting then? that tech workers leave "high paying jobs" to work for the DoD? To what end? Exert military force against China? I'm not sure thats the right course of action, even though the 21st century almost certainly will see escalating conflict between USA and China.

Rather than the DoD, i could see what you mean if instead we were talking about other federal and local departments of trade, labor, environmental policies, etc. Exerting soft power instead of hard, military force. NGOs with a focus of international labor organizing might be applicable too.

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2. jayliew ◴[20 Nov 19 21:06 UTC] No.21588518[source]▶
> So what are you suggesting then? that tech workers leave "high paying jobs" to work for the DoD

No. Have you not heard about the tech workers who voluntarily quit their civilian day jobs in protest of their employer, because their employer was working (or planning to work) with the DoD?

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3. deusofnull ◴[20 Nov 19 21:29 UTC] No.21588741[source]▶
I personally have turned down offers such as this with regards to the NYPD so I am familiar. I didnt understand your original point, thought you were saying people should quit high paying tech jobs TO go work for the DoD. Sorry for the confusion.