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rjzzleep ◴[] No.21191018[source]
Have we all forgotten when Mozilla replaced the CTO with a long history of internet freedom work to replace him with a marketing director and the disaster that followed?

Are we going to keep trampling on all our freedoms in the name of ... freedom(?) and then blame it all on China?

EDIT: I knew some people were going to try to spin it into something it wasn't.

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Steltek ◴[] No.21191038[source]
Was that the same lover of freedom that campaigned to take away the freedom of others?
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whatshisface ◴[] No.21191473[source]
If you think back to before gay marriage was accepted as a culturally obvious fact, some of the arguments against it involved hating gays, but others didn't. Without the ability to tell which beliefs actually motivated his donation, it is not possible to discern if he was against gays or not. (I'll refrain from giving any specific examples in order to avoid starting that debate again, but I think most of us can remember that time in fair detail.)
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groby_b ◴[] No.21192055[source]
It's kind of hard to say "you do not deserve to share your life with the person you love. You don't deserve to take care of them when they're sick. You don't deserve a family with them. Because you're gay" without actually hating gay people.

Just because you don't call for somebody to be killed doesn't mean you don't hate them.

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philippejara ◴[] No.21192375[source]
I'm not sure what world you live in that not being able to enter a formal contract with a partner means "you do not deserve to share your life with the person you love. You don't deserve to take care of them when they're sick. You don't deserve a family with them. Because you're gay" A piece of paper and some legal guarantees is not stopping you from having a family, sharing your life with and aiding said person in sickness.

I am and always were in favor of gay marriage as long as marriages were a thing(as in, i'd rather they not exist as a "formal" thing), but this hyperbolic nonsense that the only possible reason there is disagreement on it is because they hate the gays and nothing else is just silly.

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rileymat2 ◴[] No.21192498{5}[source]
There are lots of legal wrinkles to that "piece of paper", for instance with respect to hospital visitation policies and the ability to adopt. So yes, some of those things are directly impacted.
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1. BrendanEich ◴[] No.21211249{6}[source]
Are you aware of California's form of civil unions, Domestic Partnership Law? Still on the books, and it provides the same positive rights with respect to hospital visitations, etc. I was among the majority of Californias who supported this law as passed and amended. I would not have supported Prop 8 without it on the books.