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diveanon ◴[] No.21190558[source]
Can we please start a cultural movement that forces large corporations to choose between appeasing Chinese censors and looking like fools to the rest of the west or getting banned in China.

Really seems like a win win scenario.

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ianleeclark ◴[] No.21190604[source]
> Can we please start a cultural movement that forces large corporations to choose between appeasing Chinese censors and looking like fools to the rest of the west or getting banned in China.

But what about the share-holder value?

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diveanon ◴[] No.21190665[source]
That's the best part, there is no correct choice.

Corporations love sitting the moral grey area on issues like this, but putting them in a position of having to choose between looking like Chinese stooges or getting banned from China will break their minds.

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ianleeclark ◴[] No.21190748[source]
> Corporations love sitting the moral grey area on issues like this

It sure doesn't seem to me that bending to the will of an authoritarian state is "sitting in the moral grey area." They've made their decision.

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esailija[dead post] ◴[] No.21191071[source]
authoritarian state is a tautology
shantly ◴[] No.21191215[source]
It’s not.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/authoritarian

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esailija ◴[] No.21191393[source]
Yes, if laws were optional then they would cease to be laws. Laws subordinate individual freedom and every state has laws.

Also the state itself determines what the constitution is and even how it's interpreted or overriden. So saying state is accountable to constitution (which is determined by state ) is circular reasoning.

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1. diveanon ◴[] No.21195687[source]
The constitution is not determined by the state, it is ratified by a democratic vote. Sometimes this vote is conducted by representatives, and sometimes by popular vote.

I feel like you are missing a vital part of your understanding on how liberal democracies were founded and how the balance of power is distributed between the people and institutions that govern them.