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rjzzleep ◴[] No.21191018[source]
Have we all forgotten when Mozilla replaced the CTO with a long history of internet freedom work to replace him with a marketing director and the disaster that followed?

Are we going to keep trampling on all our freedoms in the name of ... freedom(?) and then blame it all on China?

EDIT: I knew some people were going to try to spin it into something it wasn't.

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Steltek ◴[] No.21191038[source]
Was that the same lover of freedom that campaigned to take away the freedom of others?
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whatshisface ◴[] No.21191473[source]
If you think back to before gay marriage was accepted as a culturally obvious fact, some of the arguments against it involved hating gays, but others didn't. Without the ability to tell which beliefs actually motivated his donation, it is not possible to discern if he was against gays or not. (I'll refrain from giving any specific examples in order to avoid starting that debate again, but I think most of us can remember that time in fair detail.)
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groby_b ◴[] No.21192055[source]
It's kind of hard to say "you do not deserve to share your life with the person you love. You don't deserve to take care of them when they're sick. You don't deserve a family with them. Because you're gay" without actually hating gay people.

Just because you don't call for somebody to be killed doesn't mean you don't hate them.

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isoskeles ◴[] No.21192808[source]
Not allowing a legal marriage recognized by the state doesn't strictly prevent much of what you wrote. Although it does prevent some privileges (e.g. hospital visitation rights) which was definitely an issue at the time.
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damnyou ◴[] No.21193236[source]
Hospital visitation is not just "an issue". Taking care of your spouse when they're sick is one of the core aspects of marriage. What else would "in sickness and in health" mean?
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isoskeles ◴[] No.21193454[source]
Hey, we can have a conversation like adults or you can browbeat me with semantics. Your choice. You haven't taught me a lesson here by trying to police the words I used.
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damnyou ◴[] No.21193503[source]
My point is that hospital visitation rights are incredibly important and a society which fails to extend them to all relationships is actively discriminating.
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1. dmix ◴[] No.21193823[source]
We should protest the hospitals, that's a ridiculous policy.

Plenty of people aren't getting married today and are in long term relationships equivalent to old-school marriage. My spouse and I have made it a point not to.