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    Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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    2525 points hownottowrite | 13 comments | 08 Oct 19 09:23 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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    a_c ◴[08 Oct 19 14:36 UTC] No.21192772[source]▶
    Interesting how an incidence in gaming garner more eye balls on the topic of Hong Kong politics than whole month combined. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

    Good for the people of Hong Kong.

    The topic of Hong Kong didn't struck me as sensational/desperate as it deserves until a Hong Kong friend send me this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yXTHODE24Q Am moved by the clip, especially for the first 50s. It is english sub-ed. Would recommend anyone interested in the topic give it a look

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    1. Timpy ◴[08 Oct 19 14:44 UTC] No.21192859[source]▶
    The Taiwan Flag Emoji topic got a lot of attention too. I think that's a fair spread. Censorship, Unicode standards, and Blizzard is kind of the expected overlap of interest topics for Hacker News.
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    2. a_c ◴[08 Oct 19 15:10 UTC] No.21193108[source]▶
    I realised the Emoji topic https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21182705 after posting my comments. Blizzard, emoji, Hong Kong, and in part NBA too[1], once again shows how unpredictable viral-ness can be.

    [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21176976

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    3. ehsankia ◴[08 Oct 19 15:23 UTC] No.21193280[source]▶
    Right, general politics is not really in the wheelhouse for HN, but these two specific cases encroached on tech, which is why they got much more attention. Other acts of technological censorship from China also often reach the front page. I don't think there's anything nefarious, it's that those other topics aren't really relevant to HN.
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    4. joelx ◴[08 Oct 19 15:29 UTC] No.21193351[source]▶
    We should all boycott Blizzard and the NBA.
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    5. ergothus ◴[08 Oct 19 16:29 UTC] No.21194028{3}[source]▶
    After bnetd I boycotted Blizzard for years. The only tangible result was that I missed out on Warcraft 3. After the 1-click patent, I boycotted Amazon for years. They didn't appear to have missed my money.

    I'm all for collective action, but I'm not sure if boycotts are reliable. I've seen companies respond to social pressures, but like net neutrality, when they can make money they just try again more subtilely, and that presumes the original pressure was successful.

    I'm not saying we SHOULDN'T boycott Blizzard and the NBA...but do we have other options as well? Governmental action to be backing, companies with clear "good" positions we should promote, etc?

    I don't have ideas, I just have a pile of bitterness and hopelessness, and issues like Hong Kong feel a lot more important than 1 click.

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    6. iamaelephant ◴[08 Oct 19 16:44 UTC] No.21194185[source]▶
    The emoji topic has nothing to do with Unicode standards and everything to do with Apple capitulating to China.
    7. closetohome ◴[08 Oct 19 16:52 UTC] No.21194263{4}[source]▶
    I feel like there are different levels here. The Bnetd thing was unfortunate, but still an exceptionally first-world problem. People being beaten to death in the streets may warrant a bit wider reaction.
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    8. echelon ◴[08 Oct 19 16:54 UTC] No.21194295{5}[source]▶
    The parent poster isn't claiming that certain issues are more or less pressing than others. Rather, we, as ordinary citizens, have zero control. Individual acts of protest are not working and do not change these companies' behaviors.
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    9. philipov ◴[08 Oct 19 17:00 UTC] No.21194363{4}[source]▶
    Boycotts only work when a reasonable number of people can make an impact on the bottom line of a corporation. Corporations have grown so large that the size of the group necessary to make that kind of impact is as large as a large corporation. Viral social media witch hunts can have that kind of impact, so if you want to organize a boycott, you better hire a PR company.
    10. praptak ◴[08 Oct 19 17:10 UTC] No.21194469{4}[source]▶
    Boycotting is the ethical thing to do but it almost never works. What works? I guess the same things that worked for women and blacks - enough people willing to stick their necks out and organise politically.
    11. closetohome ◴[08 Oct 19 17:42 UTC] No.21194853{6}[source]▶
    And my point was that this has a better chance of success because the cause is more widely understandable and sympathetic than a lawsuit over IP.
    12. LeoNatan25 ◴[08 Oct 19 18:40 UTC] No.21195564[source]▶
    Don’t forget the well placed South Park episode to pour more gas on the fire.
    13. bsder ◴[08 Oct 19 23:21 UTC] No.21198367{4}[source]▶
    > I'm all for collective action, but I'm not sure if boycotts are reliable.

    Boycott the Hearthstone streamers. Without the pros to tell the punters what the meta is and what cards to buy, the game dies out.

    While Blizzard won't notice a couple people leaving, streamers will notice even a couple of people telling them they are leaving their channel.