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bayesian_horse ◴[] No.21191285[source]
It's really hard to tell the difference between what is genuinely offensive and what is not.

No easy answers. In this case, maybe there is a relatively simple rule: Supporting democracy must not in itself be regarded as offensive...

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ekianjo ◴[] No.21191815[source]
> It's really hard to tell the difference between what is genuinely offensive and what is not.

You can't have both "Free Speech" and "You Can't Say Anything Offensive" at the same time, because there is too much overlap. So you have to choose. The US constitution is pretty clear that "Free Speech" is the higher principle.

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dragonwriter ◴[] No.21191901[source]
> The US constitution is pretty clear that "Free Speech" is the higher principle.

No, the US Constitution doesn't even purport to set out social priorities outside of the relations between the government of the US and it's people.

You might believe that free speech is an important principle outside of that context, but (even if dead guys once wrote it in a document was a valid argument for a set of social priorities) the Constitution of the United States doesn't make that claim, and if you want to make it, you’ll have to make the argument yourself, not just rely on “the Constitution say so”.

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1. Supermancho ◴[] No.21192689[source]
> the Constitution of the United States doesn't make that claim > the US Constitution doesn't even purport to set out social priorities outside of the relations between the government of the US and it's people.

I disagree. The fact that the US Constitution deals with a specific relationship between government and individual is incidental to the implicit claim. The US society therein is governed (for whatever it's worth) by the "priorities" and principles within that constitution. This is what marks the confusion. I agree there is a legal distinction between the principles and law. The principles remain.