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tibbon ◴[] No.21184395[source]
What's it take for an engineer in the US to actually do something like this?

If my boss/product manager wanted me to do something like this, I'd be calling them out for shitty politics, and telling them they need to find a new engineer because I'd quit immediately - and likely incite others to come with me.

Maybe I have a higher sense of morality than others, but I'm no shill for China's power over Taiwan. I can use my entitlement/privilege as an engineer to say "fuck off" to anyone who wants me to do things I find immoral. Furthering the needs of a power hungry regime looking to assert dominance over others? Nope. I spend all my day working to further democracy and freedom, not to enable free thought and self-determination to be squashed.

Whoever coded this change and approved this PR, shame on you.

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Simulacra ◴[] No.21184760[source]
I don’t think it’s the engineers fault. Apple is in business to make money, and China represents a huge chunk of money. The company seems to prioritize money over human rights in situations like these. Likely they had an engineer in China do it.
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1. Zenst ◴[] No.21184818[source]
Yes, when it comes to trade and financial wealth of a country, then the amount of `social/humane` crimes you can get away with does seem to have an equation waiting to be officially formulated and named.

Don't make it right, but it is a common theme by many countries and how they put business of trade ahead of moral and for the right price, will look the other way. Not singularing out any country as more righteous or guilty than others, as not the motives here or the point. Just that it does happen and sadly, I don't see that changing. Which is sad as it is in corruption/bribery on many levels and just not seen for what it is.