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degenerate ◴[] No.21182905[source]
The degree that China goes to censor things reminds me of kindergarten. Pull the shades down, and kids won't want to go outside? Is it simply a reminder to their people of who's in charge, at this level of pettiness?
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maweki ◴[] No.21183083[source]
I think most people on Hacker-News would know that Taiwan exists, even though a flag is missing on their phone. I think for the general population in the US or Europe that's not so clear.

If one would never hear about Taiwan, would we really "know" it exists?

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JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.21183479[source]
> I think most people on Hacker-News would know that Taiwan exists

I frequently come across, in America, people who are genuinely surprised that Taiwan is a sovereign state.

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1. oasisbob ◴[] No.21184624{3}[source]
Are you sure they don't just disagree with your use of the word sovereign? I find it a strange way to describe the ROC and Taiwan.

Without a clear territory under exclusive control, recognition from other governments, or independence from the mainland, what's so sovereign about it?

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2. JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.21184881[source]
> Are you sure they don't just disagree with your use of the word sovereign?

Yes, when people debate Taiwan’s sovereignty (for, independent foreign relations and a military, against, limited recognition) they understand the local context. That there is legitimate dispute with respect to its status is news to a surprising number of Americans.

3. _iyig ◴[] No.21186482[source]
>Without a clear territory under exclusive control

But isn’t there? Taiwan has borders and a military.