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nvahalik ◴[] No.21125093[source]
> Imagine if the US suddenly had a dictator

This is why we have the second amendment. And the constitution as the thing to which office-holders swear allegiance to rather than to "the party" or "the president".

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swarnie_[dead post] ◴[] No.21125127[source]
Non-American here, i never really understood your second amendment or how you cling to it in the modern age.

What are a couple of rednecks with assault rifles (which arguably they shouldn't be able to purchase anyway) going to do against semi-autonomy kill droids being flown from a bunker in the desert?

ericmay ◴[] No.21125154[source]
The same thing that people in Afghanistan did?

It's also not cool to characterize people who have assault rifles or support the 2nd amendment as rednecks. I'm certainly not one. It's actually kind of offensive to even use that term anyway if you ask me.

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moate[dead post] ◴[] No.21125893[source]
Hello. I grew up surrounded by guns and on food stamps. My parents like cheap beer, low brow humor, my father mostly worked manual labor jobs, and they generally vote "anti-government". Some people call it white trash, others call it rednecks. The term is offensive if you want to be offended. That's fine if you're offended, you have the right to be. As someone who grew up around that life, I call them "hillbillies, Hill-People, The banjo-music-folk, or fucking hicks" depending on my mood.

Now, that said: your read is one read on OP's comments, that people who own semi-auto, clip fed tactical rifles and support the second amendment are all rednecks. Another, very reasonable read is that rednecks exist, and some of them support 2A and own murder guns. It's the whole Square/Rectangle thing.

As for Afghanistan: Comparing the war/politics there with a potential modern US civil war is comparing apples to rocket ships: There might be some similarities if you try (people fighting each other for political reasons) but the actual events, techniques, and implications of the wars would be universes different.

filoleg ◴[] No.21127096[source]
>people who own semi-auto

Wait what. Did you mean, literally any rifle that isn’t some antiquated bolt-action one or something like a sniper rifle? Because iirc pretty much any even remotely non-vintage rifle/handgun is semi-auto, aside from a few novelty/specialty guns.

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1. moate ◴[] No.21129539{3}[source]
I mean if you just stop mid-sentence you can make people say all sorts of things they didn't actually say.

>> Because iirc pretty

Thanks for the compliment! Let's address what was said, and what I meant.

Here's the part of the post I was responding to specifically: >>It's also not cool to characterize people who have assault rifles or support the 2nd amendment as rednecks.

Now, most gun people will go out of their way to inform you that AR-15s and similar civilian weapons aren't "assault rifles", even though that's what most people are talking about in these kinds of discussions. You can't (technically) own a full-auto weapon in the US. Based on my general understanding of guns in the US, when most people see an AR-15, a "Modern Sporting Rifle" but I hate that term so I just described the gun, they think it's an "Assault Rifle" but that's not true.

I don't really know what you're point is here? The original (now flagged) post was pointing talking about redneck 2A-loving gun nuts. I was pointing out that 1- I don't like rednecks, 2- not everyone who owns a gun is a redneck, and 3- the Afghanistan War and a second US civil war would be very different conflicts.

ALSO, fwiw, there's plenty of modern bolt-action rifles being produced theses days because they're reliable AF, and if you're good at hunting you shouldn't need a clip (yea yea, "true Scotsman", whatever). Also, there are plenty of shotguns that are not semi-auto. There's all kinds of guns!