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nvahalik ◴[01 Oct 19 13:30 UTC] No.21125093[source]▶
> Imagine if the US suddenly had a dictator

This is why we have the second amendment. And the constitution as the thing to which office-holders swear allegiance to rather than to "the party" or "the president".

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swarnie_[dead post] ◴[01 Oct 19 13:34 UTC] No.21125127[source]▶
Non-American here, i never really understood your second amendment or how you cling to it in the modern age.

What are a couple of rednecks with assault rifles (which arguably they shouldn't be able to purchase anyway) going to do against semi-autonomy kill droids being flown from a bunker in the desert?

ericmay ◴[01 Oct 19 13:37 UTC] No.21125154[source]▶
The same thing that people in Afghanistan did?

It's also not cool to characterize people who have assault rifles or support the 2nd amendment as rednecks. I'm certainly not one. It's actually kind of offensive to even use that term anyway if you ask me.

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swarnie_ ◴[01 Oct 19 13:41 UTC] No.21125194[source]▶
No offence intended, just a stereotypical image i go to when thinking about the US's gun culture and all the problems it brings.
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swebs ◴[01 Oct 19 14:03 UTC] No.21125423[source]▶
I think the problems are unrelated to gun ownership. If you were to plot the percent of gun ownership vs the crime rate among various states or even countries, you wouldn't find much of a correlation.
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davinic ◴[01 Oct 19 14:48 UTC] No.21125879[source]▶
There are several studies on this that conclude otherwise. For example[1]:

"Firearm prevalence is significantly related to total violent crime (B = .600, p < .05). With each unit increase in firearm prevalence, the expected count of the violent crime index increases by .600. This also indicates that the percent change in the total violent crime is an 82% increase for every unit increase in firearm ownership. The prevalence of guns does significantly increase the violent crime in the county. This finding is consistent with previous research on firearm prevalence and crime both in the United States and internationally."

[1]: http://www.cjcj.org/uploads/cjcj/documents/jpj_firearm_owner...

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1. snagglegaggle ◴[01 Oct 19 15:07 UTC] No.21126128[source]▶
I view that study with suspicion as there are also some which show a very poor link or no link at all. But in either case: prohibiting the possession, sale, and consumption of alcohol would decrease disease and increase productivity. Why should we not do that?