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nvahalik ◴[] No.21125093[source]
> Imagine if the US suddenly had a dictator

This is why we have the second amendment. And the constitution as the thing to which office-holders swear allegiance to rather than to "the party" or "the president".

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swarnie_[dead post] ◴[] No.21125127[source]
Non-American here, i never really understood your second amendment or how you cling to it in the modern age.

What are a couple of rednecks with assault rifles (which arguably they shouldn't be able to purchase anyway) going to do against semi-autonomy kill droids being flown from a bunker in the desert?

JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.21125217[source]
> What are a couple of rednecks with assault rifles (which arguably they shouldn't be able to purchase anyway) going to do against semi-autonomy kill droids being flown from a bunker in the desert?

The point is to increase the cost of violence against the population. The Swiss bunker / guerrilla strategy.

Also, there is no reason to suspect asymmetric vectors like autonomous drone armies would accrue solely to state actors.

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cjslep ◴[] No.21125883[source]
> The Swiss bunker / guerrilla strategy.

As an American living in Switzerland, this is not a fair comparison. The Swiss strategy involves mandatory service (with the backing of the government), short and long term preparations against an outside invading force (with the backing of the government), highly regulated gun ownership (with the backing of the government). It's always wielded with the backing of the government against an outside force.

In stark contrast, the U.S. mindset around gun ownership has always been about wielding the weapons against the government itself. Instead, what this effectively means is that this will be an easily hijacked ideal if, in our politically charged era, portions of the government are viewed as "illegitimate" and one part of the government backs a coup with gun-toting civilians against "the government" (the part not liked).

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1. JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.21126103[source]
> As an American living in Switzerland, this is not a fair comparison

As a Swiss American, I agree. Today’s Second Amendment debate is perverted.

My argument was to the point of the Second Amendment, its intent. America is currently on an extreme end of the gun-debate spectrum.