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nvahalik ◴[] No.21125093[source]
> Imagine if the US suddenly had a dictator

This is why we have the second amendment. And the constitution as the thing to which office-holders swear allegiance to rather than to "the party" or "the president".

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kristiandupont ◴[] No.21125139[source]
If HK'ers had a similar right to carry guns, do you honestly believe that they would be any better off right now?
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djsumdog ◴[] No.21126045[source]
You really can't protect yourself from a government in a stable State, because the State needs a monopoly on violence to exist. Even in America, the argument from 2nd amendment advocates, that guns help protect American citizens from their government is absolutely ludicrous.

There is no realistic way for Americans to stand up to the entire US State with violence. Not without some very wide spread belief in the failure of the state, believe that would probably be easier to get with non-violent protest (and it still wouldn't be easy).

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1. falcor84 ◴[] No.21126096[source]
>There is no realistic way for Americans to stand up to the entire US State with violence.

Yup, particularly not as long as the same people vote to reduce access to secure communication methods.