←back to thread

1116 points whatok | 1 comments | | HN request time: 0s | source
Show context
ryanchankh ◴[] No.20740736[source]
HongKonger here. I have some friends in China posting similar anti-protest posts on WeChat social media. It's like the news they read has a completely different story than what it's being told in legitimate new sources. The problem of fake news does become very apparent, and I hope people in China can eventually gain awareness or at least start to question the validity of their news sources.
replies(10): >>20740852 #>>20740950 #>>20741085 #>>20741418 #>>20741796 #>>20741819 #>>20742574 #>>20742846 #>>20742925 #>>20743748 #
ospider ◴[] No.20742925[source]
Native Chinese here. Hacker news have been a great place to learn new things to me for 5 years. But the political views on Hacker news are somewhat naive to me. It seems that the Chinese Government is always evil and wrong, but why haven't the government collapsed after so many years if there were no people supporting them?

People in China, at least those millions people who are able to cross the Great Firewall, know that democracy is generally good, but they also know that a strong central government can also be useful for certain circumstances. Most westerners and HongKongers on Hacker news have a very extreme political view, you just believe "democracy is good"(TM), protesting against the evil Chinese government is good. But can you take a closer look at what is really happening in HK and then decide what you believe?

BTW, I'm neither pro-protester nor pro-police, I think the protest is a result of economic regression in HK. You could also check my comment and posting history to see that I'm not a 五毛党.

replies(13): >>20742957 #>>20742982 #>>20743015 #>>20743189 #>>20743329 #>>20743617 #>>20743769 #>>20744025 #>>20744070 #>>20744149 #>>20744260 #>>20745704 #>>20748964 #
actuator ◴[] No.20744260[source]
Maybe people(Han Chinese) are not protesting because they know what happens if you protest, look at what happened in Tianamen square.

Also, the people who are protesting are crushed like what happens in Tibet or Xinjiang.

A strong central government might be good for the majority but surely when it suppresses the minorities to just get them in line with the rest, you can't overlook that.

replies(1): >>20766686 #
1. mnming ◴[] No.20766686{3}[source]
This is unfortunately wrong.

Most people in China don't protest because: 1. they don't get enough benefit from protesting 2. they are happy

Most fellows on HN, respectfully, barely has any understanding on how CCP works internally.

Do they imagine that a bunch of Chinese officials form a party just to think about how to enslave/suppress people and inhale money everyday?

It's all about national interest, people are just pawn. On the HK matter: CCP brainwashes Chinese by amplifying the violent aspect of the protest. Western media brainwashes westerners by understating the damage caused by protest and glorifying their actions.

At the end of day, none of this matters. Power is power. Someone will figure out how to "fix" HK's education system. Leaders of protest go to good US uni on scholarship and have a good life. Fugitives will still need to be handled somehow. Game of monopoly will continue.

Life will go on.