←back to thread

1116 points whatok | 2 comments | | HN request time: 0s | source
Show context
ryanchankh ◴[] No.20740736[source]
HongKonger here. I have some friends in China posting similar anti-protest posts on WeChat social media. It's like the news they read has a completely different story than what it's being told in legitimate new sources. The problem of fake news does become very apparent, and I hope people in China can eventually gain awareness or at least start to question the validity of their news sources.
replies(10): >>20740852 #>>20740950 #>>20741085 #>>20741418 #>>20741796 #>>20741819 #>>20742574 #>>20742846 #>>20742925 #>>20743748 #
ospider ◴[] No.20742925[source]
Native Chinese here. Hacker news have been a great place to learn new things to me for 5 years. But the political views on Hacker news are somewhat naive to me. It seems that the Chinese Government is always evil and wrong, but why haven't the government collapsed after so many years if there were no people supporting them?

People in China, at least those millions people who are able to cross the Great Firewall, know that democracy is generally good, but they also know that a strong central government can also be useful for certain circumstances. Most westerners and HongKongers on Hacker news have a very extreme political view, you just believe "democracy is good"(TM), protesting against the evil Chinese government is good. But can you take a closer look at what is really happening in HK and then decide what you believe?

BTW, I'm neither pro-protester nor pro-police, I think the protest is a result of economic regression in HK. You could also check my comment and posting history to see that I'm not a 五毛党.

replies(13): >>20742957 #>>20742982 #>>20743015 #>>20743189 #>>20743329 #>>20743617 #>>20743769 #>>20744025 #>>20744070 #>>20744149 #>>20744260 #>>20745704 #>>20748964 #
1. ryacko ◴[] No.20743015[source]
People generally are naive. Many things can be said about that, I recommend reading Leary’s eight-circuit model of consciousness.

Why do people support bad governments? I recommend reading about Havel's greengrocer.

Obviously the Chinese government is capable of doing some things right or it would, as you say, collapse.

replies(1): >>20743550 #
2. ospider ◴[] No.20743550[source]
Thanks, books added to my reading list.