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bouncycastle ◴[] No.20742545[source]
One of the strangest things I seen so far was not online but on the street in Sydney, Australia. There was an "anti-democracy protest" https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/anti-hong-kong-protest-in-...

It looks people who oppose Hong Kongers really exist and truly hold on to their beliefs.

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1. diNgUrAndI ◴[] No.20742622[source]
Why not? Even within HK there are thousands pro-police anti-protest supporters.

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/08/17/oppose-violence-save-h...

Our opinions are shaped by what media are fed into our brains. I saw my friends divided into two camps because of the different media articles they read.

How do you make sure you are not biased and only read what you believe? Rad more and find the opposing articles!

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2. chii ◴[] No.20742757[source]
You can't by just reading more. You also need to be able to read critically, and be able to spot manipulative arguments. It's actually quite hard.

Historically, journalism is meant to take the impartial stance, but lately, this ethical stance seems to no longer apply as more and more "journalism" (both online and offline) swing towards bias and clickbait.

3. bouncycastle ◴[] No.20743240[source]
> Why not?

Of course, Australia is a democracy so they are free to do so. The irony is that these "anti democracy" protestors are exercising their democratic right to protest!

Perhaps there are probably ulterior motives for their behavior, eg. these people want to prove their loyalty to the party in order to gain a better acceptance/ranking, or there kinds of peer pressure. Others could be simply influenced by the CCP mouthpiece - it to has reached Australia. Finally, some could actually be paid - the stakes are high enough.

I'm finding it difficult to accept these people actually believe that oppression of a minority is the right thing. Deep down, their beliefs are shallow and probably exist because nobody has challenged them. So engaging them rather than bannig or downvoting would be better

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4. dbuder ◴[] No.20744082[source]
They are certainly attending due to the direction of CCP assets.
5. diNgUrAndI ◴[] No.20746204[source]
> The irony is that these "anti democracy" protestors are exercising their democratic right to protest!

It's also irony that when "protestors" (or just people voicing their opinions) exercising democratic rights to protest are treated differently because they don't agree with your view.

From what I chatted with my friends, this is not about loyalty to any party. It's as simple as, when people spreads misinformation about your hometown, others seeing them and starting to talk legitimate shit about your hometown, you feel angry and voice your strong opposite opinions.

> Others could be simply influenced by the CCP mouthpiece Yeah, right. A large number of Chinese students/immigrants, being in Australian democracy and with access to all press articles on both sides, have lost their judgements and can't tell what are facts at all.

> some could actually be paid - the stakes are high enough. Please back this claim with sources.

From my experience, the people sharing the posts are ordinary people, who simply voice their concerns. Given the sheet number of them, paying them is not practical.

The irony is that we did see some posts about HK "pro-democracy" organizers paying protesters for them to go on the streets.

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6. bouncycastle ◴[] No.20758357{3}[source]
One thing I've noticed about some Australian protests, especially in Sydney when I attended some for a different thing a while back, is that there are actually a lot of "anarchists" around who love to attend any rallies and just stir shit up. These guys neither like any sort of governments, always come with their conspiracy theories... The three letter agencies, or harbour some other kinds of radical views, eg anti-Semitism. In other words, lots of weirdos.

Your're right, I have actually no evidence of anyone getting paid, so I'll retract that statement.

Curious, what kind of misinformation have you heard about your hometown? What are some of the strong opinions you would like to voice?