Information operations directed at Hong Kong

you gotta love the language: "coordinated state-backed operations" are banned. such careful language. what does that make USAID, who is undoubtedly responsible for shaping this discourse? perhaps an "uncoordinated" state-backed operation? and what does that make twitter?

it's not enough to call everyone here "dumb" or "sheeps," because all of the middle-class americans on this wretched forum are specifically acting in their self-interest by helping (in whatever pathetic way they can) to topple china. just because they won't admit to this outright and instead take advantage of careful language ("democracy" etc.) doesn't make them dumb. historically it has made them a real threat and that it is exactly why china has to issue such tight command over this conflict (and the "uyghur problems", and "free tibet", and "tank man", and ...). luckily american hegemony is waning and the front against china will fail. just sit, wait and enjoy the shit show.

I'd be surprised if many or any posters on this forum want to "topple China".

Probably more just believe the current government of China should behave differently.

yes just like they just believed the government of libya should've behaved differently... the point is to provide an explanation as to why people here just happen to share the same opinion as those "uncoordinated" U.S.-led operations whose explicit goal is to topple china.

also it's important to note that not everyone in the U.S. who is exposed to U.S. propaganda is going to develop the same opinion (specifically those internally colonized nations such as immigrants and people of color otherwise). so why the hacker news crowd, why reddit, why twitter? the answer is so obvious it hurts. so my comment cannot convince 99.9% of the people who read it but perhaps there are one or two people to whom i can offer some solace (such as the OP of this chain). not interested in debate

Ya me neither. Plenty of bad behavior on all sides. I don't excuse any of it.

I'm just saying your characterization of the motive of the average poster here may be off.