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TheCapn ◴[] No.20576645[source]
The one thing I sort of held as truth over my life about why international grand conspiracies would never be "real" was that there's just too many individuals involved to make a coverup possible. Surely there has to be some individual with morals to leak necessary evidence to the media right?

The more that comes out about this Epstein case the more I question that truth. I'm sure there are people on the inside looking to call out and reveal things but if our sole source of coverage for these events are media companies owned by the very people guilty of such high crimes then what do we do? Surely the internet would enable these voices to come forward?

The whole thing seems so weird and like a fiction novel. I'd love to see those horrible people charged for their crimes, but in the absolute bare minimum I'd like to see how such criminal empires operate without notice.

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paganel ◴[] No.20576678[source]
One of the magazines that were indeed reporting on people like Epstein was Gawker, it’s actually mentioned in the article. We all know what happened to Gawker but people in the Valley are too afraid to speak up against pretty despicable guys like Thiel.
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1. tomp ◴[] No.20576738[source]
What "people like Epstein" was Gawker reporting on? Unfortunately I only know it from Theil-related stories, i.e. reporting that Theil is gay and the sex tape issue (neither of which seem "Epstein-worthy").
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2. shredprez ◴[] No.20576824[source]
Here's an Epstein explainer they published in 2015: https://gawker.com/billionaire-pervert-jeffrey-epstein-and-h...
3. paganel ◴[] No.20576874[source]
Epstein himself, for once, and that would be enough. Also, one of their magazines/websites was reporting on some crazy parties, travel-trips and weddings carried out by SV owners, things that nowadays will definitely raise a few eyebrows in terms of economic inequality and conspicuous consumption, but those article were very badly received by the employees of those people the articles were writing about (so including people on this website) so that not a lot of tears were shed when Gawker went down.

I’m not equaling Marie Antoinette-way of living to the despicable things Epstein did, I’m just saying that in today’s political climate it would have been very interesting to still have access to articles detailing how the Google or FB owners were throwing out their money.

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4. losvedir ◴[] No.20576875[source]
Not so much "people like Epstein" but actually Epstein himself. To my understanding, Gawker (well, Nick Bryant really) was actually one of the few who actually reported on him in detail back in the day. E.g., here's this[0] from 2015. Some of the links are broken now so I can't link to other of Bryant's stories about it.

[0] https://gawker.com/here-is-pedophile-billionaire-jeffrey-eps...

5. tomp ◴[] No.20577112[source]
I don't really see a difference between "these evil rich people are spending money / living if ways that we don't approve" and "these evil rich people are having sex in ways we don't approve" (i.e. Thiel is gay!!!1). Both are a needless distraction from progress/living happily and encourage a hostile political climate.